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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2004, 11:37:25 PM »
Oh yeah, well you're a poo poo head.

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« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2004, 11:38:26 PM »
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why would they have been shot once if it was a gunfight, and given all the hostage taking, would it not have been easier to Just capture them?

man this is turning into a mess....

message is clear.. do Not be takin prisoner
easy to say where I'm at (not there), but these people don't believe in the concept of "POW"

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« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2004, 12:21:28 AM »
That's gonna take about five minutes to figure out, if true, right?

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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2004, 12:30:41 AM »
Just for a goof I'm gonna bet 3 days tops, reported, if this went down.

If not in three days, it didn't happen like that.

They're all gun shy now. Better they say it the way they want than having it said for them eventually anyway.

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« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2004, 12:41:07 AM »
Triple-murder suicide in Iraq?

It's a story... if it's a story.

Wherever is there a need for a point? Did the story of the beheading of Berg make you change your life in any discernable way?

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« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2004, 12:47:45 AM »
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Just for a goof I'm gonna bet 3 days tops, reported, if this went down.

If not in three days, it didn't happen like that.

They're all gun shy now. Better they say it the way they want than having it said for them eventually anyway.


Unless the dude left a note they are going to be guessing on how it went down.  No way are they going to guess murder-suicide unless they get some proof.

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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2004, 12:50:47 AM »
Reason I say that (could be totally wrong or missing something) is that... Can't they pull the rounds out of the bodies and tell if it came from one of their own guns?

Unless maybe an Iraqi armed with a knife overpowered them, stole one of their guns and then shot them.

Or?

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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2004, 01:06:19 AM »
It sounds very strange. Dont they carry radios? Its possible they were outnumbered and were running and ran out of ammo but stayed together. If they didnt have radios. Hard for me to believe someone could sneak up on them, overpower them like in a running fight but not sneak up on them. And that would take alot of people to do.

As for looting them, well maybe the people have learned from Falluja and were afraid to desecrate the bodies of four service men fearing the retaliation. If your going to loot someone, why move them into a building or enclosure?

Murder seems possible but so remotely unlikely. Hard to imagine.

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« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2004, 01:14:49 AM »
The suicide rate in Iraq has been "alarmingly high" (google it). Twenty-four as of May 03, plus seven shortly after returning home, and two in the hospital.

Not outside the realm of reality.

Still... I'm talkin' out my arse. I have no idea what could have gone down.

I just figure that with Dinger gettin' Yahoo mission debriefs from the field... whatever happened is eventually gonna come out.

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« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2004, 01:18:48 AM »
May 03 (as in third day)... '04..... :)

My bad.

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« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2004, 05:39:48 AM »
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Unless the dude left a note they are going to be guessing on how it went down.  No way are they going to guess murder-suicide unless they get some proof.


Ballistics and empty cartridges at the scene will go some way to explain what happened.

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« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2004, 09:44:24 AM »
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In WWII anyone caught wearing enemy uniform would been shot on the spot by the enemies. No prisoners.


So there were no POW camps in WW2? :eek:

Murder-suicide... I don't even want to speculate. Ballistics technology can determine direction, range, angle, and type of firearm used. And I doubt insurgents are using 9MM sidearms.

I really hope there's another story than what's currently being speculated

Rafe
« Last Edit: June 23, 2004, 09:51:38 AM by Red Tail 444 »

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« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2004, 03:46:03 PM »
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So there were no POW camps in WW2? :eek:

Murder-suicide... I don't even want to speculate. Ballistics technology can determine direction, range, angle, and type of firearm used. And I doubt insurgents are using 9MM sidearms.

I really hope there's another story than what's currently being speculated

Rafe


Did you fail to notice I meant the enemy uniform?
aka german soldier wearing a british uniform.

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« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2004, 03:59:22 PM »
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Did you fail to notice I meant the enemy uniform?
aka german soldier wearing a british uniform.


Misread...thank youfor the clarification...mosquitoes drained most of my blood at the barn, runing a bit light today :)

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« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2004, 04:12:47 PM »
Murder suicide..is someone on drugs.
They evidently were captured and killed.  Thinking there was suicide involved is like thinking they went to the moon and asphixiated..