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Offline 1K0N

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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2004, 12:44:48 PM »
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Your radio has a dial. You don't have to listen to him.

Stern was dropped from Clear Channel stations after he came out against GWB and Clear Channel's owners are huge GWB backers.

 


I think generally the FCC guidlines/laws are written to protect children from being able to listen to obscene material.

Clear Channel dropped Sterns after the Stock holders started to worry about thier portfolio's values falling... That was easy to pick up the first day it happened....
The Stock holders are big GWB fans but not big enough to watch thier life savings plummet in a few days time..

Though in retrospect those same stock holders will miss Sterns earnings for Clear Channel.. It seems that John Boy And Billie yuck fest just doesn't do that well in the NEw York market...

Just an opinion though, we both going to believe what we want..

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« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2004, 12:46:14 PM »
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How does Clear Channel dropping Stern based on philosophical differences and market conditions have anything to do with the FCC?

I'm not saying that the FCC has acted fairly or rationally with respect to the fines it has levied against Stern, but if market forces made it worthwhile, Stern wouldn't have been yanked.

Clear Channel's decission to pull Howard Stern - however misguided it may be - is simply a corporate entity excercising its will in a free market. There's nothing untoward about that and it certainly can't be called censorship.


Good points but the issue is not so clear cut.

Clear channel had a number of on air personalitys that were being investigated by the FCC. Many are still on the air. The FCC fine addressed all the issues outstanding with Clear Channel (not just Howard Stern) although Clear Channel and the press are painting it like the fine was a result of Howard Stern only.

Stern was huge in the 6 markets they dropped him from. Clear Channel justified dropping him by saying it was due to indecency but it was only after he came out against GWB that they dropped him.

Even though it is in his contract that he can re enter the markets he was dropped from Clear Channel knows if he does it will kill their stations so they are sueing him to keep him out. This is against the contract they signed.

In a nutshell they dropped him from swing political markets when he started coming out against GWB. The FCC fine was not just due to his show so that was not a reason to drop him. They kept on air other DJ's who were fined under the blanket fine. They are fighting to keep him out of the markets they dropped him from as they know that the audience for him in those markets is huge.

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« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2004, 12:52:04 PM »
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Do you listen to the same Stern I do?  Just because the callers are above your intellect, doesn't make them rocket scientists.


You are confusing Stern callers (or any radio station caller) with his average listener.

The demographics on his listeners is that they are better educated and richer than the average American.

That is why his show is popular with advertisers.

Martlet I can't help how smart or not I am. God made me that way. However you chose to support Bush all on your own. That is like asking to be put in the special ed class at school. :p

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« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2004, 12:57:03 PM »
Just a thought, and I could be wrong...Weren't those decency codes written by the FCC in the 1950's? Back then good decent citizens has their own clean drinking fountains and schools and the negros had seperate. The times, they have changed. Maybe it's time to update those codes to fit into the next century.
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« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2004, 02:05:39 PM »
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Originally posted by Habu
You are confusing Stern callers (or any radio station caller) with his average listener.

The demographics on his listeners is that they are better educated and richer than the average American.

That is why his show is popular with advertisers.

Martlet I can't help how smart or not I am. God made me that way. However you chose to support Bush all on your own. That is like asking to be put in the special ed class at school. :p


Could you provide me with that demographics poll?

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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2004, 02:22:40 PM »
5.6 million people listen to Howard Stern every week.

74 percent of his audience is 25 to 54, the most coveted demographic in radio.

64 percent of his audience is 25 to 44.

57 percent of his audience has a household income of $50,000 or more.

33 percent of his audience has a college degree.

61 percent of his audience is employed in white-collar occupations.

Source: Scarborough Qualitative Research for Howard Stern CBS-owned affiliates/Howard Stern Ad Network.

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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2004, 03:15:03 PM »
Stern hasn't been funny in years.

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« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2004, 03:19:45 PM »
Actually if you're looking for someone to blame, that would be Ms Jackson, and MTV for their halftime special.  They're the ones that got the FCC all riled up.  Stern just got nailed in the backwash.

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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2004, 03:22:31 PM »
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Actually if you're looking for someone to blame, that would be Ms Jackson, and MTV for their halftime special.  They're the ones that got the FCC all riled up.  Stern just got nailed in the backwash.


Ms. Jackson hasn't been funny in years,.

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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2004, 03:26:02 PM »
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5.6 million people listen to Howard Stern every week.

74 percent of his audience is 25 to 54, the most coveted demographic in radio.

64 percent of his audience is 25 to 44.

57 percent of his audience has a household income of $50,000 or more.

33 percent of his audience has a college degree.

61 percent of his audience is employed in white-collar occupations.

Source: Scarborough Qualitative Research for Howard Stern CBS-owned affiliates/Howard Stern Ad Network.


So with 33% having a college degree, that makes the "average" listener more educated and enlightened?

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« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2004, 03:31:32 PM »
How long will Letterman be allowed to show his Bush funnies?

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« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2004, 03:32:41 PM »
Now, now, Weav... don't interrupt a good GWB bashing in progress...

BTW, I suggested the same above. Apparently shortterm memory loss is a problem for some of the people who post here (not you, I am speaking of the events from earlier this year regarding the Super Bowl and its aftermath).

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« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2004, 03:35:47 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2004, 03:36:51 PM »
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So with 33% having a college degree, that makes the "average" listener more educated and enlightened?


Yes.

How many Americans do you think have college degrees and make more than 50K a year?

You are just on the defensive and shooting in the dark. Post some facts that contradict what I said if you have some. You may not like what I have said but that does not make it wrong.

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« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2004, 03:42:21 PM »
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Yes.

How many Americans do you think have college degrees and make more than 50K a year?

You are just on the defensive and shooting in the dark. Post some facts that contradict what I said if you have some. You may not like what I have said but that does not make it wrong.


No, you said:  "the average Stern listener".

I'm merely pointing out that your "facts" don't support your assertion.  

33% definately isn't the "average".