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Offline leonid

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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 1999, 06:24:00 AM »
First of all, it is the community's responsibility to decide if someone needs a dressing down due to unacceptable behavior.  The .ignore command will go a long way towards addressing that, since if you can't hear them, they aren't there, since killshooter is on.

And speaking of killshooter, another method of 'punitive action' against offending players is to have HTC deem someone killshooter exempt.  Code another line that says something along the following lines,

if (HitObject == Friendly)
     HitObject = MyObject;
[b]else if (HitObject == Damned)
          break;[/b]

This would effectively make it 'open season' on any real bad offenders.  Just a ridiculous idea, actually  

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Offline Mark Luper

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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 1999, 07:33:00 AM »
I can relate to what Indian is saying, and as much a proponent of "curteous" behavior that I am, I would not necessarily want to see 24 hour moitoring either.

The use of "foul" language can be taken to extreme, and on occasion I have sent private messages to the people involved for what I deemed "over the line" use of such and have been grattified that they were able to tone it down a bit. This was their choice and they chose to be , in my opinion, a bit more civil. I thank them for it.

However, I don't think that the occasional slip should require that individual to be thrown out.

Like Indian, I have been in the Army, I work with and have worked as so called "blue collar" workers and most have a penchant for use of the "f" word as an adjetive, verb and noun in every other sentence. I used to do the same. I finally decided I didn't need it. I didn't like the overall impression it made of me as an individual. I still slip, but rarely and never online.

It is a matter of courtesy, in my opinion, just as is any form of comunication. I don't think it's courteous to badger someone who may be ignorant of what keystrokes are required to perform certain functions in the game. I don't think it's curteous to downgrade someone else's flying ability. But this is a competitive game and a certain amount of taunting is to be expected.

I like to see good sportsmanship and a fair and equitable playing field even though in real war that is never the case. The stakes are too high to be curteous in real war. This is a game and we can all get lost in the immersiveness of it and forget for a while reality. It can also be terribly frustrating to get shot down all the time too :-) Ask me, I havn't had a good landed sortie in quite a while. You guys are getting too good :-).

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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 1999, 06:42:00 PM »
 to imply that increased funds for a game will weed out the "bad apples" is being elitist. say I have more money then you so you go do something Im not. I was told by (Ahem) someone to get another job. my replay was that I am disabled. his reply was that he knew several disabled people with jobs. I used to work insurance sales for some time. the term "Disabled" is in 2 catagories "partial" and "full". if Partial they can still do a job wether it be something they was trained for or can still do a reasonable amount of thier old job. Full means that they are unable to do any meaningful or gainful work with currrent skills. well I fall into the full catagory until I can pay off old school debts and return to it. so Im classified as Full Temporary Disabled. (no Im not hear to whine just making a case) so you plan on telling me since I cant get work and not already well off I can take a leap but nowhere around "your space"? I seen things that would make people ANYPEOPLE cry, growup and smell the coffee. been through all the walks of life from being more then well off to being litteral gutter trash wondering if I was so much as going to live till tomorrow. my mentality is higher then the average for my age. now cant you be a sport and lay off those who are good people? for now I rest my case. if you have something to say its open forum. but lay off the direct attacks of those that are in a specific social class/income bracket.

Offline JoeMud

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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 1999, 04:45:00 AM »
Well said Wicked,very well said.

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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 1999, 11:14:00 AM »
Nice Wicked  

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"I am just getting rather fed up with the popular attitude of today and wish people would start taking more personal responsibility when interacting with society."

Hits the nail on the head.


And if things are getting outa hand online take a few screen shots and make a post here with links to the pic's, I'm sure many will jump on the band wagon it there is a real case for concern. I dont see a problem


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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 1999, 11:31:00 AM »
For what its worth its not all that bad yet but will get worse. I just read on AGW that IEN locked an account of a player for language. We could take the ignore path but look around we ignore enough it gets only worse. I must admit i miss alot of messages that fly past in the game but if I see the same name come up I look to see why everyone is talking to that person. I seen Pyro comment on everybody acting like school kids.

If you must swear in the game use the Cartoon style nobody cares about that to much and we get the point.



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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 1999, 01:20:00 PM »
 I was taught, as a boy, That one of the most offensive things you can do, Is brag about how much money you make.

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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 1999, 06:24:00 PM »
Well, in my case it wouldn't be bragging  

Offline Wardog

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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 1999, 09:39:00 PM »
TT, How much you make has absolutely nothing to do with what you are willing to pay for a quality online sim.The community is part of the (Quality package).

Im willing to sell the wife &  kids (but keep the Dog) to fly in an enviroment that has a good community.This is no different than having a hobbie.If your very interested in your hobby you will find a way to pay for it  

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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 1999, 12:17:00 AM »
its always easier to say that when you make 19 bucks an hour aint it...

I say let the FM and the community already established determen the kind of people that would want to join. not their income or willingness to sell wife and children.

Offline Westy

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« Reply #25 on: October 22, 1999, 09:38:00 AM »

 Excuse me for resurrecting this thread but last night I made an effort to help maintain a consistant stance on arena decorum by asking a pilot who was repeatedly using the word 'diddly' over channel one to stop.
 Oddly the only people who aided my effort
were two people I knew were from Air Warrior
but the people who mocked my attempts were
the Warbirds pilots.  Flat rate versus premium pay. <snide chort>
 Just an ironic observation I thought I'd pass on in lite of the proponants in this thread who claim paying more equals more
dedication and maturity.

 --Westy

 

 

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« Reply #26 on: October 22, 1999, 09:03:00 PM »
  Roder dodger, Westy.  We old Air Warrior guys never swore much, but we sure had a much meaner demeaner when it came to flame wars.  :-)

  Anyone see the DoKtoR on-line latey?  Now there's a bandit who knew how to throw a party (Scenario).  heeehe!

Drum rolling over and out!

Offline indian

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« Reply #27 on: October 23, 1999, 12:01:00 AM »
Funny thing is Warbirds does not tolerate the language they just booted a guy for it. but they come here and look what happens.

Im both former AWIII and WB.

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Offline smash

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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 1999, 05:03:00 AM »
.ignore - simple enough.  Your idea of offensive and mine are different.

And as far as children and the dreaded "evil influence" so often espoused by conservatives....

Most of the garbage I see in the buffer obviously comes from 14 year olds.  Your daughters are safer with my language than what they hear in the school hallway on a daily basis.

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Offline Mark Luper

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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 1999, 07:02:00 AM »
Westy,
I don't know if I was in the arena at the time, but I make it a point to approach the individual in question on a private channel. When something is said on global channel it normaly exacerbates the situation due in part to the reaction of someone having a "finger" pointed at them in public.

 Almost all the people I have contacted, one exception, have complied and cooperated in reducing the foul language when approached that way.

I find it hard to beleive you were berated by WarBirds players for trying to acheive some decorum in the arena since it is a sore point that is harped on constantly in WarBirds arenas. Then again I either wasn't there or did not see it.

Often when something like this happens some others may be approaching the individual on private channel or country channel so though you are being supported you just don't see it.


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