Author Topic: Bringing back the draft (Read 1559 times)

Sandman · « **Reply #30 on:** June 24, 2004, 10:10:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Falcon64
Jet man, no offense but ur a democrate, and all democrates think that way. By saying u dnt want to go to a war u dnt support, you dnt care if terrorist blow up NY or SF with a nuclear bomb!! but thats just what i think. Its america and everyone has the right to their opinion

I remember when I was 17 and I used to know everything too.

Rafe35 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 24, 2004, 10:28:29 PM »

Well.

I was thinkin' that after 2 years College, I probably sign up US Army or US Air Force and hopefully I choose the right one. I got alot post card or some mail from US Army that they want me so bad and I didn't know what to say, so I sent for more Information(Full time duty) of US Army about week ago and still waiting.

I can't remember what I did sign something draft papers that I was 14 or 16 years back then and they said something If I didn't send draft papers back, I'll have to pay $50,000 fines or going jail for 2 years?

Sandman · « **Reply #32 on:** June 24, 2004, 10:30:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Rafe35
I can't remember what I did sign something draft papers that I was 14 or 16 years back then and they said something If I didn't send draft papers back, I'll have to pay $50,000 fines or going jail for 2 years?

Did your parents sign it as well?

If you weren't eighteen, you can't enter into that type of contract without parental permission. IIRC, the earliest you can do that is at 17 and you still need parental permission. Tell the army to go piss up a rope.

DJ111 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 24, 2004, 10:30:50 PM »

Gonna be a Jr. in highschool next year, soon as i graduate i'm enlisting in Marines.

Sandman · « **Reply #34 on:** June 24, 2004, 10:31:20 PM »

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Originally posted by DJ111
Gonna be a Jr. in highschool next year, soon as i graduate i'm enlisting in Marines.

Good luck.

Rafe35 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 24, 2004, 10:46:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Did your parents sign it as well?

If you weren't eighteen, you can't enter into that type of contract without parental permission. IIRC, the earliest you can do that is at 17 and you still need parental permission. Tell the army to go piss up a rope.

Sandman,

Yes, my parents did sign the papers and sent it to the mail on the next day. I was confused back then til' I learned about Draft when Sgt(Forgot his name) of US Army came our school and talk about Draft.

Right now, I am 18 1/2 years old and turn into 19 in July 13.

Rafe

(BTW, DEEJ, Good Luck if you joined up US Marines

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Sandman · « **Reply #36 on:** June 24, 2004, 10:50:02 PM »

I know at least one person that avoided the army even after signing up for delayed entry. The navy is easier... just don't show up.

Here's some info.

http://www.objector.org/girights/delayed-enlistment-program.html

Until you show up and do the whole "support and defend" thing, you aren't in.

Rafe35 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 24, 2004, 10:58:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
I know at least one person that avoided the army even after signing up for delayed entry. The navy is easier... just don't show up.

Here's some info.

http://www.objector.org/girights/delayed-enlistment-program.html

Until you show up and do the whole "support and defend" thing, you aren't in.

Hmmm, I'll look up that info and look intresting thought. I was going plan to stay US Army for long time til I retired or whatever happened to me and I have no family who stay the military for long time.

Rafe

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #38 on:** June 25, 2004, 12:07:08 AM »

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Originally posted by DJ111
Gonna be a Jr. in highschool next year, soon as i graduate i'm enlisting in Marines.

You really should go down to your local veteran's bellybutton and spend some time with those old guys and be VERY sure exactly what you're getting into.........they didn't say "You'll be soooooorrryyyy!" to fresh meat for nothing

Jasta · « **Reply #39 on:** June 25, 2004, 12:07:16 AM »

Basic talking points:

1. Iraq war can be about whatever you want it to be. Believe whatever you want: oil, Saddam, WMD, Al Qaeda. We Americans are way too stupid/brainwashed/idealogical/naive to possibly know for sure. Yes, thats WE.

2. The reason kids dont want to enlist in the military is summed up in this statement: "Wars are started by old men and fought by the young." Which, im sorry, has been the way its always been. I personally accept it. But a lot of college kids simply don't think it should be that way and think the government is evil, no matter whos in it.

3. College campuses are notorious breeding grounds for liberalism. War and anything related to it is looked down upon as something that people only do because of greed.

Its very simple... and also very disturbing. My inner curiosity wants Kerry to win, just so I can see what happens. But our country is divided so deeply right now, I dont really think it matters who's the president.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #40 on:** June 25, 2004, 12:07:45 AM »

The phrase " Young, dumb and full of cum" just popped into my head for some reason.

Raptor · « **Reply #41 on:** June 25, 2004, 12:20:24 AM »

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Originally posted by jetb123
Is being a democrate supposed to be offensive? To me war doesnt do nothing its just going to cause lots of death and mayhem. Just to say we won a war. These guys are going to never stop. Just cause we go to war. Doesnt mean they are going to get scared. I say you can go to the war kill some guys. And come back I dont think that is such a good deed for your coutry.

So... your saying we should not have gone to war with Germany, Japan and Italy? We should have let Hitler treat Jews and everyone else he hated bad? We should have let the Japanese rape and murder civilians in areas they were occupying?

How about Afghanistan in 2001.... think about it, if we didnt do anything about 9/11 attacks the taliban would see that as a sign of weakness. Arent you glad we helped reform Afghanistan, get rid of their training camps... captured many head leaders of the Taliban. Yes there were lives lost... mostly taliban troops though. Imagine each of those taliban troops with bombs strapped to them, each taking out a dozen civilians. I think that killing/capturing him WOULD be a good deed.

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FREEDOM IS NOT FREE

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Fighting to keep your friends and family safe is not "just going to war so we can say we won"

The Iraq subject is a messy one.... But I support it. Lets see, in 1991 i think it was Iraq invaded Kuwait. They used chemical weapons against us. After the war Iraq was not allowed to produce and/or have certain types of weapons. Well Iraq stopped letting UN inspectors come in and look for weapons. Personally I dont like the sound of that. People say they didnt have any weapons in Iraq that they shouldnt have... this must have been a war over oil. But thats not true, Iraq was launching cruise missiles at Kuwait cities... which they were not suppose to have. They had parts to make 'weapons of mass destruction', but they were not assembled. If they had wanted to they could have quickly placed them together.

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My inner curiosity wants Kerry to win, just so I can see what happens.

I heard on memorial day a group of vietnam veterans asked him to leave a memorial sight and he flicked them off

Jasta · « **Reply #42 on:** June 25, 2004, 12:22:02 AM »

Un-called for schadenfreude... Highly un-called for, whether you are talking about me or the people im talking about.

Jasta · « **Reply #43 on:** June 25, 2004, 12:24:46 AM »

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I heard on memorial day a group of vietnam veterans asked him to leave a memorial sight and he flicked them off [/B]

(Assuming that is true) My inner curiosity changes... now i am curious to see what he looks like when he cries after he loses to Bush

Gunslinger · « **Reply #44 on:** June 25, 2004, 12:29:52 AM »

OK MY .02$

First....

registration with the selective service is MANDITDORY (SP) does not mean you are going to be drafted....every other teenager has to do it....

If you dont and there is no draft worse thing that really could happen is that you will never be eligible for a federal job

Second....

If there is a draft it is not 1969. we are not losing 1000 GIs a month.

out of over 300,000 that have allready served in this conflict only 800+ have died (god rest their souls ) I think the number of wounded was at a couple thousand.

again it is not 1969 they are not gonna send 18 year old draftees to Iraq without the proper training. The military does not want draftees to be sent to a war you dont support to die and end up in a newspaper on the front page only to deterr the war effort.

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If you are a young buck and feel compelled to serve your country dont let any of these tards on this board tell you otherwise. BE AN ADULT and make the descision for yourself.

I joined the Marines at age 18 and although I wish I went to college instead somtimes I dont regret a minute of it.