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Offline LeadGen

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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2004, 10:39:15 AM »
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LeadGen - Hope you have not left yet!  Give it some time - It grows on you like some kind of fungus - Really give it some time.

Always enjoy workin' with ya!

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MaddogWX,
Thanks for the kind words, I always enjoyed flying with you as well. Yes I did already cancel, I wasn't threatening to cancel, I was saying good bye. I will however check back from time to time and see if things have improved, perhaps in a few months.

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2004, 10:42:42 AM »
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I have flown with you many times Mr. LeadGen and many of you pilots know me from my ex/squad RT. It is extremely sad to see good and decent players leave because HTC had a baby that not everyone thought was that cute...


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RTDarksun,

Enjoyed flying with you as well and I'm sure you'll be missed. The entire Rapid Thunder crew was an honor to work with.

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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2004, 10:45:33 AM »
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I personally thing that AH2 is a 1000 times better than AH1.

I completely agree! And it will become better... :aok

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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2004, 10:47:14 AM »
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OR,  reopen AH1 and let them finish AHII:eek:


Just hate to see player after player leaving the game:(


LtarMoil,
I'm with you, I'd come back if they would reopen AH and get back to work on AHII. I'd even pay more for AHbut right now I'm not paying for AHII. On the last day AH was available there were still 250+ players in the MA, that says something to me about AHII.

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2004, 10:50:59 AM »
There are alot of people who have no clue as to what it would take for HT to maintain and balance 2 code bases (AH I and AH II are 2 different animals) ... nor do they realize the $ cost of maintaining multiple (duplicate) servers to run both AH I and AH II at the same time.

If AH I were kept alive, which version gets the attention of HT. I can see the mayhem when HTC annouces new plane additions to AH II and the AH I crying for the same planes ... again ... remember that planes in AH II cannot function in AH I, so HT would have to duplicate the effort for AH I.

Key word in all of this is DUPLICATE. Duplication in the software world is STUPID and guaranteed to cause more problems than its worth and results in loss of money. I don't know about you, but I don't think that HTC goal is to lose money at the rate that "duplication" would create.

Then when it's truly ready do a weekend {mainly because #'s are up then} test with the AH community, get the feedback, see what's up.
Then when Monday rolls around HTC can say A}we need to work out this or that
B}We nailed it, AHII now open for business


You're kidding Moil .. right ?

We did the Beta thing ... a lot of us ... and from that statement, it appears that you didn't.

The logic in your statement is exactly what the Beta accomplished as far as HTC was concerned, so feel comfort in the fact that this was covered by a whole lot of Beta testers over the last month or so.

There is a magic point in software development/deployment where you just have to throw the switch and at that point you don't look back. I am a software developer by profession, and IMO HTC was not premature in their decision to go live with AH II.
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2004, 10:52:45 AM »
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AH1 is dead.  Its gone.  Get over it.

 


Sling322,

I did, I voted with my $ and left, I'm over it. Its sad because I spent thousands of hours enjoying AH but couldnt find much enjoyment in AHII

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2004, 11:00:43 AM »
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What you guys don't realize is that AH2 at it's release is WAY better and WAY less buggy then AH1 was at it release
 The problem here is the the change in gameplay that comes with the improvements
 If your framerate sucks, first thing to do is turn the textures down to 256, it makes a huge difference at a smll cost in "eye candy"


Flit,

I guess part of my problem is that a game like AHII shouldn't have been jammed down our throats and forced on us. Yes we all knew it was coming, that doesn't make the new version any better and I dont think HTC should have forced this one on us untill it was ready, and IMO its not even close. Another part of my problem is that I personally enjoyed the land grab, I was good at base captures, with my squad and other squads, or even solo captures. I didn't enjoy furballing or vulching, for me the game was about winning the war and you do that by capturing bases. In AHII capturing bases is no longer fun.

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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2004, 11:10:16 AM »
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I'm with you, I'd come back if they would reopen AH and get back to work on AHII.  


How hard is it to understand that that isnt possible?  AH is an ever-evolving game.  Every new version since AH1 beta goes through the same process.  The game is released, bugs are found, bugs are squashed, game improves.  If you dont like this process or dont agree with it, then maybe you would be better off playing boxed games that dont have any updates because every online game I have ever played does the same thing that HTC is doing here.

Answer me this....how long have you been playing?  Were you here when AH1 was in its developmental process and we were getting new versions and new planes every 6 months?

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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2004, 11:10:42 AM »
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whenther or not it was ready for full release is a matter of opinion, but I assure you HTC is no where near done with making improvements to the game. Its only been out for maybe a week, Perhaps you just need to take a lil brake while they work out some issues. Or maybe take this opportunity to improve your fighter/bomber skillz which you stated need improvement.

I am sure HTC will soon address the base capture issue, you are not the only one un-impressed. I guess I'm just sayin you might wanna give it a lil more time before you make this decision, its still REAL early.

Im still tryin to get into the game with my dinosaur CPU, I havent gotten as far as you, & I haven't given up yet-:)

Anton


Anton ,

I guess you could say thats what I'm doing, taking a break and waiting to see if the game becomes worth paying for in the future. I expect it will take them months. If HTC addresses the base capture issue it might be worth playing in the future for those of us that who particularly enjoyed or were good at gooning. I'd hope they do something about the FH's regenerating in 2 minutes and the 75% fuel BS too.

Also I want to add that I don't fault HTC for trying to improve their product, there are many good new points about AHII like the CVs, I simply don't feel this one should have been forced on those who wanted and were willing to pay for AH. Personally I liked AH and would like to have seen some minor changes made to it and the addition of alot more maps. With the base capture being what it is in AHII the complaints of "My God when is this map going to change!" are going to be more and more frequent.

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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2004, 11:18:09 AM »
Where o' where is Airhead when he is needed most.

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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2004, 11:26:45 AM »
If HTC addresses the base capture issue it might be worth playing in the future for those of us that who particularly enjoyed or were good at gooning. I'd hope they do something about the FH's regenerating in 2 minutes and the 75% fuel BS too.

What is wrong with the base capture ?

Last night I captured 1 in a goon and flew cap in another capture. I saw no problems. Knock all the buildings and ack down ... kick the drunks out and it's done ... same as AH I.

Last night I also knocked out VHs and FHs and flew cap. Never saw one regenerate before its 15 minute time period.
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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2004, 11:47:24 AM »
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How hard is it to understand that that isnt possible?  AH is an ever-evolving game.  Every new version since AH1 beta goes through the same process.  The game is released, bugs are found, bugs are squashed, game improves.  If you dont like this process or dont agree with it, then maybe you would be better off playing boxed games that dont have any updates because every online game I have ever played does the same thing that HTC is doing here.

Answer me this....how long have you been playing?  Were you here when AH1 was in its developmental process and we were getting new versions and new planes every 6 months?


I don't play boxed games or any other sim, in fact I normally do not like games. I loved AH the moment I started playing, I was hooked. To answer your question no I haven't been around since the AW days like most of my squad. I joined AH about September of last year and have logged over 1000 hours in the air since then. mostly in C47's. Again I don't fault HTC for trying to improve the game but I happen to see AHII as less enjoyable, for me personally as a goon pilot, and also because of some of the changes that other people have said they like, like the icons and distance ranging which I dont care for, as well as things mentioned in my original post. For those that love the new game, more power to you, have fun furballing and hording.

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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2004, 12:57:26 PM »
Funny how some people just don't get it :( . If one takes the time to think about it, AH1 was never "finished". The game is like a living creature, it must continue to grow and expand (and hopefully, improve). AH1 had reached a point where further expansion was really difficult. AH2 expands the possiblilites of growth for the game. What you see now (and play) is not what we will be playing a year from now. The fact that some can't step back a pace and try to look at the "big picture" is sad.
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« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2004, 01:06:02 PM »
It shouldn't be surprising though NB, since AHI has been static during the development of AHII.

I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, just that it happened that way. There are many many players out there who have not been around during times when HTC was upgrading every 3-4 months. They don't know the sheer joy of it all. I hope they stick around long enough to experience that.

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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2004, 01:52:53 PM »
I really hate to see people leave, especially guys like LeadGen.

But the came MUST evolve and move on, it simply cannot survive otherwise.

While AH II is not perfect, no game ever will be, it is where the future lies for HTC. It was time to make the move. This is not nearly so bad and so buggy as most games of this type are when they are introduced.

It must also be said that HTC could not possibly be expected to continue to support both AH and AH II. Hell, even Microsoft with all of its wealth and resources, ceases to support older software. And you pay a lot more for Microsoft software than you do for HTC software. And honestly HTC software is often a lot less buggy, and HTC is a lot more pleasant and helpful.
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