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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2004, 04:04:20 AM »
StracCop, There are many diferences. Most of witch are easily noted by the amount of whines on the BBs
A different FM that takes getting used to that i think is getting better and better
A differnt gunnery that involves different visual cues and loses others IE> cant see hit sprites thry dash
If you fly into a horde your still gonna get gangbanged
If you try to up from a capped base your still going to get vulched.

If you go by yourself to pork all the fuel at a base your only going to get it down to 75%
As for Gameplay well it's going thru some growing pains right now.
IMHO I think it is HTC intention to promote more teamwork IE dont just pork the base take a mission and capture it with bombers to bomb, fighters for support and anti fighter stuff, jabbo's for the sugical strikes like the VH and goons to capture. AND Gv's to kill the GV's that got up.
i think it's just going to take a little bit till the dusts settles and folks get used to the new things and start working together more. I have found that when several players work together you get good fights, can capture bases and get a more emersed sensation in the game..
It's still got some bugs true but they are being ironed out every day.

I think the best thing to do is try it out and if you find a problem don't become part of the problem try and be part of the solution.

BTW I love playing AH2
« Last Edit: June 25, 2004, 07:52:26 AM by WilldCrd »
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2004, 04:07:08 AM »
Same with Maik, I stopped flying AH1 a long time ago.

IL2/FB was enough to keep me busy. Tried the AH2 betas and found it quite fun.

I don't care for the +/- icons that were added in the last patch or the 2.0 fuel multiplier. Both only really are of "benefit" to Ami planes.

Allies High 2.0?

Just kidding of course...:p

Offline XtrmeJ

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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2004, 04:10:51 AM »
Totally. This is like the 2nd-3rd week AH2 has been out? People can debate that AH2 should or shouldn't have been released when it did, but guess what, it was and there is no changing that. Everyone realizes the there are many bugs and issues that need to be dealt with. ATM HTC is releasing 1-2 patches a week. They are addressing problems that the players find and are correcting them as necessary. I would'nt exactly agree that quitting at this point is the right thing to do. If you are going to quit after 2-3 weeks of bugs, I wonder why HTC hasnt quit manufacturing this sim since it took them 1-2 years to produce AH2. Well then I guess none of us would be here at all, would we? HTC is doing there best, and I think they are doing a damn good job thus far. My 2 cents.

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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2004, 04:57:18 AM »
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LOL! Been there... :lol


am there :(  :)

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2004, 05:18:08 AM »
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Man that is such a load of bs, Fish & others are telling it like it is and your dragging him to your corner of the "your mad for the same reason I am"
Your system this, your system that.........blah blah blah:rolleyes:

Got left in the cold in more ways than one IMO


Should I give up on trying to get my computer upgraded and find another game?  Medical bills will keep me from getting an upgrad for at least 3-4 months.  I was not trying to get Fish in my corner, I know he was having problems with his computer a few days ago.  That's why I said that.
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Offline DipStick

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2004, 05:26:24 AM »
If you fly into a horde your still gonna get gangbanged.

If you actually WANT to fight, this is your only choice. Ok there are occasional, although of VERY short duration, areas of fun fights. These are usually off a CV before it gets sunk by 50' Lancs or the CV ups so many the field gets vulched. Sometimes there's some between close fields.

If you try to up from a capped base your still going to get vulched.

Alot of times it's the only way to get a chance to fight less than 20 vs 1. Also in less than 10 mins flying time.


Don't get me wrong, the update was nice. I like the new stuff in the game it's the mindset of the players that is screwy. It reminds me of the old days in AW when you have to climb to 25k for 10 mins fly around some more and finally find a fight. Then if you get angles on them they dive to the deck so you can fly around some more (and your about out of fuel in AH2 now) or dive down and try to get that one kill before it's time to RTB.

For me that's not fun. It was ok I guess 5-6 years ago but old now. I would like to see folks grab to 5k and mix it up in between 'close' bases. It's just alot more FUN, that's what I'm here for. Me Levi and Wadke were trying to have some fun the other night. Best the rooks would give us was 20:3. They were all flying timid, keeping their alt and b-n-zing ad-nauseum. Verrry boring.

I hate to say this for the simple reason that I don't have a good suggestion to fix it. I really think closer fields helps, I do think the small maps are too small for 400+. People also think small maps mean closer fields but they don't.

Perks for reset probably doesn't help either. Anyway this should be enough to solicit endless flames, just really bored at work and thought I'd have my say. Flame away and cya up.

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2004, 05:37:53 AM »
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I like the new stuff in the game it's the mindset of the players that is screwy.  

Flame away and cya up.


Isnt it abit wrong to tell others that they enjoy the game in a wrong way?  :D

I do understand what you mean and i agree that it would be more fun if everyone played the game my way.
When i played i was kinda good at spotting the good fights from the maps so i enjoyed the game alot.

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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2004, 05:47:51 AM »
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To be honest...

Improved:

Graphics
Gunnery
Damage model
Flight Model

Same / Worse:

Gameplay (sucks beyond belief) your choices being:
(a) Get vulched
(b) Fly into a horde of 15-20 timid pilets and get banged slowly by b-n-zzzzzzzzzzzzers
Hehe, guess what, Dipstick? We're in agreement again! Three times in one month! I don't think I can take it! I don't think YOU can take it! :lol

I don't play much in the summer months. AH is a winter game AFAIC. The graphics are better, but that was never a priority for me. I would rather have the old graphics and some more interesting gameplay than superdooper graphics and the same old same old P51/LA7/Spit crap gameplay. I said all along that the gameplay would not change with AH2. I also said that the pattern of gameplay might change because of issues like reduced fuel porkability. Looks like I was right on both counts.

But I LOVE the blow that has been dealt to the dweebiness/gaminess - particularly those guys who would respond to your acquired E advantage by pulling a helicopter job and spraying upwards from 800 yards, a tactic which was often rewarded in AH1, but not AH2. What this means is that a plane like an e-managed 109F can now compete with a turning-burning Spit.

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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2004, 05:57:36 AM »
Give it a try. Why not?

After more than 2 years of constant playing I have taken a break. Some of it has to do with AH2 and some of it has to do with RL. If I really wanted to play I would but I just dont like certain things aobut the game right now. I know they wont be changed so I will have to just adjust to them.

Its like skuzzy said. Its like breaking in a new pair of shoes. I wore then a few weeks back but now my feet hurt so Im going to let them sit in the corner until I think Im ready to give them a try again.

But, for someone just coming into AH2 and not coming directly from Ah1 to AH2 I think you will like it very much. I am not one who likes change all of the time so I miss many things about AH1. I realy would have been happy with AH1 for another year. But Ah2 is a great game and it will take some time to get used to for me.

All in all... I say go for it. :aok
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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2004, 06:06:03 AM »
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I agree, the game is just AH with a graphics facelift...and its not even a good one, more like the dr. f**ked up and tried to cover his mistake. No one can honestly say right at this moment...that they would rather be playing AHII in its current state than playing AH in its last state...again, IMO


Bzzzzt....wrong.  The upgrade to AH2 is a welcome change.  It will only allow greater things like the TOD arena to come along....not to mention new planes.  You are making wild assumptions when you make statements like "nobody would rather be playing it than AH1".

I have noticed a pattern though on the folks complaining about the game "not being finished."  They are all relatively new folks who werent here back in the days of AH1 upgrades.  Relax....HTC knows what they are doing.  Patches and updates are nothing new at the beginning of a release.  Maybe if more of you had flown the beta there wouldnt be as many patches and bugs to squash.

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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2004, 06:12:10 AM »
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Bzzzzt....wrong.  The upgrade to AH2 is a welcome change.  It will only allow greater things like the TOD arena to come along....not to mention new planes.  You are making wild assumptions when you make statements like "nobody would rather be playing it than AH1".

I have noticed a pattern though on the folks complaining about the game "not being finished."  They are all relatively new folks who werent here back in the days of AH1 upgrades.  Relax....HTC knows what they are doing.  Patches and updates are nothing new at the beginning of a release.  Maybe if more of you had flown the beta there wouldnt be as many patches and bugs to squash.


Very true. Until they started working on AH2 they released patches, upgrades and new planes every now and then so  just play and enjoy it. Wish i could have been there to test the beta of AH2 myslef but framerates were at a stable 0 so there was not alot i could do :D

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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2004, 07:43:39 AM »
I'm with Maik.

And I'm running a year & half old amd 1.67 with an elcheapo ati 9000 pro video that cost less than 100$ at the time.


Am I still frustrated with gunnery, yes, often. Then again some sorties  I pull it all together & land 3 or 4.

Call me a fanboi if you must.

Its an honorable job & someone has to do it.

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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2004, 07:57:01 AM »
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Call me a fanboi if you must.


you are not the only one :)

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« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2004, 08:45:16 AM »
If gameplay was what turned you off from AHI, I would probably wait a while before trying AHII. The MA is still the MA, with decent fights, if you can find them. We're working on getting Events back up and running, which offer a somewhat different gameplay aspect. Of course the big thing to look forward to is the Tour of Duty arena, but that's a ways off yet.

If I were you, I'd give AH2 some time to Gel before giving it another shot. Better to Maximize your trial that way.

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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2004, 10:08:42 AM »
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