Constitution 1, Bush 0

[Goth]

Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
I never know when these guys are being serious - tell me how do all you Americans feel about the above statement - not voting for Republican means you don't love your country?

No, I really don't believe that's necessarily the case. On a seperate note, however, I really can't envision Kerry handling the past 3 years properly. Dean and Gore have proven themselves to be unhinged raving lunatics.

I probably would have voted for Edwards had the Dems chosen him, but for some strange reason they chose to back Kerry.

Sometimes, I feel that Bush has gone a lilttle overboard, but all in all, I think he has honestly led this country on the right path. It's hard to blame the administration for a lot of things they get blamed for.

When it's all said and done, this country has a wonderful check and balance system, and the Supreme Court ruling is an example of how things can change, even if I don't agree with it.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by AKIron
Sandman, were you one of those liberals claiming that this same Supreme Court illegally stole the election for Bush?

Some great minds have made that argument.

[Eagler]

those held in Cuba are now free to swim home ...

[AKIron]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Some great minds have made that argument.

Well, I guess those "great minds" will be speaking out against this latest interference or travesty as well then?

[Sikboy]

This is a job for Roy Cohn! You go get the insence, I'll start chanting!

-Sik

[Mini D]

I thought this was the partisan "law-be-damned" "bush supporting" supreme court?  Was someone replaced?

[storch]

Originally posted by Mini D
I thought this was the partisan "law-be-damned" "bush supporting" supreme court?  Was someone replaced?

The court is about evenly split.

[midnight Target]

yada yada!

Even a blind squirrel.....

you know the rest.

[-MZ-]

Originally posted by storch
The court is about evenly split.

Because "the risk of erroneous deprivation of a citizen's liberty in the absence of sufficient process here is very real," a citizen seeking to challenge his classification must have notice "and a fair opportunity to rebut the Government's factual assertions before a neutral decisionmaker."

8 to 1

[Mini D]

Originally posted by storch
The court is about evenly split.

LOL! that's a classic.

MiniD

[storch]

Originally posted by -MZ-
Because "the risk of erroneous deprivation of a citizen's liberty in the absence of sufficient process here is very real," a citizen seeking to challenge his classification must have notice "and a fair opportunity to rebut the Government's factual assertions before a neutral decisionmaker."

8 to 1

Not on this particular issue but in general, some of you guys could peer through a keyhole with perfect binocular vision.

[Gunslinger]

I dont see this as a defeat for Bush or a triumph for the constitution.  I still dont understand how somone who is not a US Citizin is afforded protection under the very constitution they wish to destroy.

OTOH The seperate ruling (there was more than one here....have to say this was a very detail lacking post) saying that a US citizen picked up on the street cannot be held indefinate is a great ruling.  I completly agreed with it.

I just fear that we are once again giving the terrorists advantages by providing them lawyers.  Give them a judge w/ a security clearence and an interpretur and let them make their case why they are not a danger to the US.

Point and simple if a US citizen picks up arms against the US in a foreign country charge him w/ treason and be done w/ it.  

I think Bush's main failure here was not declaring war from the begining.  That would have made alot of things very different.

[cpxxx]

I think some of you sometimes forget is that while it might protect some terrorists rights. It also protects yours. That is the best weapon against terrorism there is and is why in the end, right will prevail.  If a terrorist suspect can have his constitutional rights taken away then they can take away all your rights too. The price of freedom is sometimes hard to bear but it's worth it.

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by Goth
Fine....turn them over to the country they were captured in then. I'm sure Afghanistan knows how to deal with them.

Btw, this should go too for any American caught fighting for the Taliban. A little muslim justice would serve quit nicely and I'm sure the liberals can't argue that fact too much.

now that is the best idea I have heard all day!

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
I dont see this as a defeat for Bush or a triumph for the constitution.  I still dont understand how somone who is not a US Citizin is afforded protection under the very constitution they wish to destroy.

Because it's the high road and it demonstrates strength of this country, its Constitution, and its people.