Author Topic: What do you think/hope the next 4 new aircraft will be? (Read 5801 times)

38ruk · « **Reply #90 on:** June 30, 2004, 07:44:05 PM »

1. P-38G
2. P-47N
3.KI-84
4.Tommy gun for the chute 8)

715 · « **Reply #91 on:** June 30, 2004, 09:07:41 PM »

Think:

P39
B24
Sherman

Hope:

Yak3 (lighter and higher performance than Yak9)
B25 (looks cool)
T34-76 (unperked, about equal to Panzer IV) and T34-85 (perked, about equal to Tiger)

715

F4UDOA · « **Reply #92 on:** June 30, 2004, 09:07:44 PM »

Heya MAC,

It's strange that ours does not have the reenforced windshield bubble considering the FM is based on a late 1943 FM.

I have some performance stuff on the late 1944 -1A model and it is faster than the -1D because it had no pylons or rocket stubs. It is the fastest of the pre-4 varients.

Anyway it can't hurt to hope.

Mister Fork · « **Reply #93 on:** June 30, 2004, 09:21:19 PM »

Pyro asked for it...

Bomber: He 111H-16
Fighter: Ki-84
Tank: Sherman

MAC · « **Reply #94 on:** June 30, 2004, 11:06:35 PM »

F4UDOA.......you de man!

Yep...can't hurt to hope and pray.....

"Now I lay me down to sleep....I pray HiTech my plane does keep......"

LOL.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #95 on:** July 01, 2004, 12:07:46 AM »

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Originally posted by United
Not before the B-17, since the B-24 was made to replace it, but yes, I think we should have at least one variation J

Going by Pyro:
B24J
Ki-84
T-34

If memory serves correct more 24's were made then the 17.
In fact there were more B24s then any other american aircraft ever built in WWII

but because most of the 24's flew out of italy, and the 17's flew out of England the 17 got all the glory because England is where all the top war correspondents went so it got the bulk of the publicity

ramzey · « **Reply #96 on:** July 01, 2004, 01:47:38 AM »

Do17
ki43
firefly

Kweassa · « **Reply #97 on:** July 01, 2004, 02:33:02 AM »

Ki-84
P-38G
Yak-9M
I-16

Simaril · « **Reply #98 on:** July 01, 2004, 07:06:07 AM »

B-25 -- has broadest allied use, widest time frame, and great variability (I WANT that strafing mod). Or, Russian Pe-2. German mediums already covered, and easier to shoot at anyway.

Mig -- broadens russian plane set, and low level usually all that matters here anyway. Or, another Yak. P-39 could die in many theaters with many skins, so also a good option.

T-34 76mm. The 85 would need serious perking, as it would routinely snack on standard panzers. Of course, once the 76mm modelled, the T-34 85 would be and easy upgrade, and give the GV player with perks burning holes in his pockets something else to buy. Or how about Werbelwind -- wasn't that the 4x20mm flakpanzer? It would bridge the m16 to Ostwind gap, and make bases that much harder to take!

Simaril · « **Reply #99 on:** July 01, 2004, 07:09:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Cooley
Fighter... Ki-84

Bomber... PB4Y

Tank... T-34

Oh, and Cooley -- very nice work, especially like the Ki84.

Any contest ribbons among the bunch?

Seagoon · « **Reply #100 on:** July 01, 2004, 10:26:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Edbert MOL
I'm curious as to why you think the M4 would upset the tank balance so much. I guess it comes down to just which Sherman they put in. I'd suggest the M4A4-76 as a balanced version.

Edbert,

My point was that most models of the Sherman prior to the Firefly were woefully inferior to even the Pzr IV (their crews called them "Ronsons" for good reasons.) So if we do get one of the early Shermans modeled, the long overdue adjustment of the Vehicle table will need to occur with the Tiger at the Top, then the Panzer IV, then the Sherman and the Ostwind and so on. Rather than continuing to have the silly "10" eny given to almost all the GVs.

Personally, while I know we want them for scenario use and for just the general historical coolness factor, I think the T34/76 would make a better addition, coming in as a non-perkie between the Pzr IV and the Tiger.

BTW - Does anyone know of a variant to the T34/76 that had an MG that could be used on Aircraft? That shortcoming could be the only gameplay advantage to introducing the Sherman.

Just my 0.0000002 cents

- SEAGOON

Kweassa · « **Reply #101 on:** July 01, 2004, 03:47:41 PM »

Oh.. missed Pyro's post.

Tu-2(or Pe-8)
Ki-84-Ia
T-34

68DevilM · « **Reply #102 on:** July 01, 2004, 03:52:41 PM »

are we saying that ht is going to actually add more plane?

sorry been on vacation

Sikboy · « **Reply #103 on:** July 01, 2004, 03:56:37 PM »

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Originally posted by 68DevilM
are we saying that ht is going to actually add more plane?

sorry been on vacation

a long time ago, in the wayback there were new and magical planes released every 3-4 months or so. Pyro has mentioned that they will be working on new planes once AH2 is smoothed out.

Hopefully we'll be getting fat on a steady diet of new airframes again soon.

-Sik

Karnak · « **Reply #104 on:** July 01, 2004, 07:51:12 PM »

I don't understand why people keep talking about the T-34/85 as a perk tank and the T-34/76 as better than the Panzer IV H. Have any of you actually looked at the ballistics of the weapons they carried?

The T-34/76 is superior to the Panzer IV H in most ways, true, but it's gun is completely inadequate. I'd give the Panzer IV H at least an even chance against it, probably better than even.

Against the Tiger I the T-34/76 would be nigh helpless. I'd much rather take a Panzer IV H against the Tiger I. If the Tiger I hits either the T-34/76 or Panzer IV H it will probably penetrate whereas the Panzer IV H has a realistic hope of penetrating the Tiger I's armor, unlike the T-34/76.

Now, it is true that the T-34/85 does out class the Panzer IV H in all ways (save the pintle machine gun which is far more important in AH than in reality) but the penetration on it's 85mm gun is still nothing to jump up and down about. I'd say that in AH terms the T-34/85 just about matches the overall usability of the Panzer IV H, with the edge going to the T-34/85. Certainly I cannot imagine the T-34/85 being a perk tank.

Perk Worthy Tanks, IMO:

Comet
Firefly Vc
Iosef Stalin 2
M26 Pershing
Panther V G
Tiger I
Tiger II