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Offline Slash27

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« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2004, 01:10:29 AM »
the P51D YOU WOULD BE ALL BE BUTT HURT CRYING.

Its written in plain English Schaden :rolleyes:

















Yeah,   I have no idea.
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« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2004, 01:24:54 AM »
For the second time tonight I am agreeing with Kweassa (say it aint so!)

Definately becoming a more late war orientated sim. Even more Ponies around now than there ever was in AH1 (don't think this is just the flight modelling, its also due to the 2 x fuel burn. But thats another bone of contention.).

I'm amazed by their dubious flight characteristics -
1) Dropped on one in a Tiffy from 5k above him (he's on deck), and he out runs me!
2) Seen one turn inside a Hurri.
3) Seen another lift from a field, chase a Tiff that just strafed runway - and catch it!

So if anything, it can do things now that I don't think it could ever do. Seems like it has been given a very dubious over, over, uberhaul.  Its become the equivalent of the Niki in AH1, that could do some weird crap also.
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« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2004, 01:35:04 AM »
INteresting to say the least...
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« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2004, 01:56:34 AM »
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« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2004, 02:11:03 AM »
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The gunnery does not favor slower planes at all, and to think so is a huge mistake.


Whatever.  I disagree.  Period.



So far the 51 seems to have improved flight modeling relative to the rest of the planes in AHII.  It may take some getting used to but I think it is more competitve now in the turning department.  Also, it seems more closely matched to the la7 speed wise(more on that as I get more experience)


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) Dropped on one in a Tiffy from 5k above him (he's on deck), and he out runs me!


No offense Kev but you either blew the angle or underestimated the 51 speed.



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2) Seen one turn inside a Hurri.


I've doen that .. especially fast.  Or if I'm quick but not too fast, I can yoyo and make it appear I'm turning inside.  :)

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3) Seen another lift from a field, chase a Tiff that just strafed runway - and catch it!


Awww cmon.
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« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2004, 02:24:39 AM »
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Somebody give Dipstick a big slam on the head, he's stuck...

LOL I did delete to other 'clone' posts. The damn button was what was stuck. :p
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« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2004, 02:47:51 AM »
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Whatever. I disagree. Period.


 No intention of forcing you to believe me, but I really must comment that what you're seeing is more or less a misunderstanding.

 P-51s are more numerous than ever, and  G-10s and D-9s saw a large rise in usage. Great many P-38s are flying around, and the F4U now sees more usage than the F6F than compared to AH1. Also, the La-7 population seemed to waver, but is back on the rise.

 In this environment, the "slower planes" basically don't stand a chance at all - not talking about individual skill, but as a whole. Planes with service introduction dates before 1944 rarely ever catch anything now.

 The only planes that are caught by slower planes, are either the same slow planes, or people who made irrecoverable mistakes even by AH2 standards, and are about to die. Naturally, that tends to make people feel that being in a more maneuverable plane is better for gunnery.

 But that's like saying a hunter in a wheel chair shooting at a fish in a barrel right in front of him, is more advantaged, than a full-legged hunter running around the woods for deers.
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« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2004, 03:24:45 AM »
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Originally posted by FT_Animal
I wonder how many RL pilots got kills at 800-1200 yds.

IMO gunnery in ALL sims is easier then RL. You had to be a lot closer then most think to make your weapons count.

And I have to tag along on this post a little. 50-60% of the players have no idea what SA or ACM is. And it's exactly has he put it. It's gamers gaming a game. I saw very little actual ACM when I flew AH.

The new model, as I understand it, because I read, has more surfaces to work off of, so yes it would be more precise as long as programmed accurately.

MANY, MANY players didn't fly it as a sim but flew it as a game and took advantages of every little flaw that would help their point mongering ars. In other words, don pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

That's a simple basic fact of life, like it or not.

AH1 was FULL of game breakers, and the ones that say "NO NO NO" are prolly the ones who took the most advantage of flaws = game breaking.

One of THE biggest reasons I quit AH1, I love the game, but most fo the actual play made me ill.

While I don't agree 100% with the post it is in the ball park of accurate statements.

All you have to really do is look at the personas replying, the rest is common sense.

I hope AH2 weeds out most of the game breakers, because now it's more of a flight sim and they just might not be able to handle it. ;-)

The only equal advantage in a game is not ONLY the brain, it's what the brain KNOWS and how to take advantage of what it knows, like how a flaw can help your monger points.

The only difference is the brain is nonsense, it's also how deviate/dishonest the brain is as well.

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Excellent, excellent post - and I agree 500%. :aok
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« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2004, 03:39:32 AM »
Well, who are these gamers?  Who are these game breakers?

what did they do to break the game?
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« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2004, 03:43:37 AM »
Dweebs that would turn off and on their engines in a fight are some...



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« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2004, 03:44:17 AM »
Oh ya... that was pretty cheesey.
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« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2004, 03:45:59 AM »
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Dweebs that would turn off and on their engines in a fight are some...



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If i am sneaking up on someone and i get within 1K and i have good E, I often would turn my engine off for the last 800yrds so they wouldnt be alerted to my presence.

is this what you mean ack-ack?

i think its a good tactic.


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« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2004, 03:52:19 AM »
Bwahahahahaha!
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« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2004, 03:52:45 AM »
actually it's a stupid tactic because you'll lose E due to drag and not have full power when you need it but no, it's not what I'm talking about.

The ones that will turn off and on their engines to create drag and slow themselves down so they can turn tighter are the ones I'm talking about.  Just ask Hblair :c)



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« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2004, 03:58:16 AM »
Your plane is like a tidal wave, spinning over my N1K
Drownin’ me in your gaminess, better left unsaid
I'm the right kind of simmer, to release your gameplay fantasy
The invincible spinner, and you know that you were born to be
You’re a gamebreaker
Score maker, piss taker
Don’t you mess around with me!
You’re a gamebreaker
Dweeb faker, piss taker
Don’t you mess around - no no no!
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