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Offline Sikboy

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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2004, 02:37:44 PM »
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Well, you're right that it is all supposition.  I guess I have a little bit less faith in the integrity of arms dealers than you do, especially ones selling chemical weapons.  Silly me.:p


I would put it differently. I guess I have a bit more faith in the abilities of the Troops on the scene than you do, especially Polish ones. Silly You :)

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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2004, 02:39:33 PM »
If those boys find anymore, they now know who will pay cash money on the barrelhead for it, buy it every chance you get.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2004, 02:41:17 PM »
Yea...everything is clearly "under control" over there.  lol
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2004, 02:43:06 PM »
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Yea...everything is clearly "under control" over there.  lol


Yeah, good point.

Stupid troops! :mad:

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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2004, 02:48:38 PM »
Unlike small tourista islands, Curval, very little of the world is "under control".  Bad **** happens everywhere, you know.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2004, 02:53:19 PM »
Sik...I would have made the same comments if it had been British, US or even Bermudian troops (lol).  I have no gripe against Polish troops.

It seems to me, and I am an uninformed couch sitter, that catering to arms dealers (especially ones dealing in chemical weapons) is a bad idea in the long run.  Hypocritical too.

Just my $0.02.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2004, 02:57:34 PM »
It appears that there is some confusion on the matter, CENTCOM says there were no chemicals in the shells, if it is the same ones:

http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/news_release.asp?NewsRelease=20040705.txt
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2004, 02:58:26 PM »
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Sik...I would have made the same comments if it had been British, US or even Bermudian troops (lol).  I have no gripe against Polish troops.

It seems to me, and I am an uninformed couch sitter, that catering to arms dealers (especially ones dealing in chemical weapons) is a bad idea in the long run.  Hypocritical too.

Just my $0.02.


My last point was more about you changing the scope of the argument from a single operation to the bigger picture, which appeared to me to have the downside of laying the blame for the situation in Iraq on the units who are fighting there. It had nothing to do with the ethnicity of the Troops involved. In fact, I actually edited quite a few references to ethnicity in all but my initial post (which wasn't directed at you to begin with).

It seems to me that if they didn't go in balls to the wall, there was a reason for it. I suppose there was a good reason (such as the ongoing investigation) and you, apparently, do not.

As far as I can tell, we're at an impasse. We'll have to agree to dissagree on that, until such time as additional evidence is made available.


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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2004, 03:01:43 PM »
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It appears that there is some confusion on the matter, CENTCOM says there were no chemicals in the shells, if it is the same ones:

http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/news_release.asp?NewsRelease=20040705.txt


Ok, now THAT would be funny. I would expect lots of Polish jokes if that turns out to be the case.

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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2004, 03:03:07 PM »
I am in no way blaming units on the ground.  In this particular case aren't the Polish troops under US overall command anyway?  I mean, let's face it, the Poles would not be buying anything from anyone without an okay from US commanders.  It was probably good old greenbacks that were paid anyway...and I doubt they came from the Polish treasury.

I still think it is a bad idea...but I don't know the fact either...so yea, we can agree to disagree.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2004, 03:09:45 PM »
Keep on diggin...:rolleyes:
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2004, 03:13:23 PM »
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What do you expect....they're Polish


Guess you didn't hear the Polish pilots had the highest kills/deaths in the Battle of Britain?
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2004, 06:46:07 PM »
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What do you expect....they're Polish


What a stupid thing to say.  Poles have been defending The west from invaders going back to the mongol hordes.  Take a minute and read up on the flying hussars.  They have been short changed by the west throughout history.  After WWII they were callously abandoned by the communist administration left in place by roosevelt after he finally died and carried on by Truman.  In spite of all that and against overwhelming odds they stood up against the soviets and were instrumental in bringing down that evil empire.  The Polish people are loyal, freedom loving, courageous and generous to a fault.  I'd rather have a Polish platoon than a french division in any fight.  Go mock the french.  Leave the Poles alone.
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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2004, 07:03:11 PM »
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Guess you didn't hear the Polish pilots had the highest kills/deaths in the Battle of Britain?


yea but when germany invaded they (the germans) walked in backwards and said they were leaving!
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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2004, 11:23:50 PM »
I agree Storch. Poland was also a leader among Eastern European countries in the struggle against communism. Without Poland's Solidarity who knows how much longer the USSR would have continued it's oppresive domination?
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