Officer involved shooting...

[straffo]

Originally posted by storch
As I have often said, I'm a poor example of Christianity, nuke'm all I say.  God will sort out his own.  Pretty well versed pagan I might add, or did you get the last norweigan pastor to write that exposition up for you?

You're Arnaud Amaury reincarnated ?
He said the exact same thing in front of Bézier during  the  Albigensians (spelling ?) crusade about 1200

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by VOR
Is there such a thing as a conservative agnostic, or is that a contradiction in terms?

The describes me pretty well.  Im not a Bible thumper, I just like killin' folks so Bush gets my vote.

[Curval]

Not sure why, but the song "Onward Christian Soldiers" is in my head now.

Do you guys know that church hymn?

Onward, Christian soldiers,
marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus
going on before!
Christ, the royal Master,
leads against the foe;
forward into battle,
see, his banners go.
Refrain:
Onward, Christian soldiers,
marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus
going on before!

At the sign of triumph
Satan's host doth flee;
on then, Christian soldiers,
on to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver
at the shout of praise;
Brothers, lift your voices,
loud your anthems raise. Refrain

Like a mighty army
moves the Church of God;
Brothers, we are treading
where the saints have trod;
we are not divided,
all one body we,
one in hope and doctrine,
one in charity. Refrain

What the saints established
that I hold for true.
what the saints believèd,
that I believe too.
Long as earth endureth,
men the faith will hold,
kingdoms, nations, empires,
in destruction rolled. Refrain

Crown and thrones may perish,
kingdoms rise and wane,
but the Church of Jesus
constant will remain;
gates of hell can never
'gainst that Church prevail;
we have Christ's own promise,
and that cannot fail. Refrain

Onward, then, ye people,
join our happy throng;
blend with ours your voices
in the triumph song:
glory, laud, and honor,
unto Christ the King;
this through countless ages
men and angels sing. Refrain

Man, anyone else up for a crusade or two after reading that?

[VOR]

The Inquisition...
What a show!

[Saurdaukar]

lol

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by SOB
I think some believe that felon has a lot more paying to do.  You know, in the ole h e double hockeysticks.

Wow, and to think what GScholz was thumping his chest?  It's all up to the big guy upstairs.

Karaya

[Crumpp]

Can't let this thread go by...

My heart goes out to the Family, the victims, and the officer.  All are paying the price for one mans twisted pleasure.


God is against Soldiers Killing huh?  Not according to Chaplain Evers, one of our unit chaplains.  Have you ever seen the movie "BlackHawk Down"?  SSG Evers is now Captain Evers, Chaplain Corps.

During one deployment in the Middle East, the other unit chaplains wanted to have a prayer vigil to pray for peace.  Evers refused to go.  Finally these other chaplains, incensed by Evers refusal to participate, decided to make a big deal about it in the Units Tactical Operations Center.  Evers pulled out his bible and began to quote from it.  He completed his mini-sermon with the words "God commands us to confront Evil.  He instructs us that when faced with it, sometimes the Sword of God is the only answer Evil understands and Evil must be cut out where ever it is found.  How do you know these men are not the Sword of God sent to do his work?"  With that the other Chaplains left.  We all cheered.

Do I think we are the Sword of God?  Of course not, but we are certainly justified in hunting down the Evil men who masterminded September 11th and doing everything in our power to destroy the breeding ground of such men.  

Another story -

At the conclusion of one battle we were searching the hamlet for weapons based on intelligence we had received.  The compound was large and surrounded by a thick wall with 5 buildings and a courtyard in the center.  We knocked on the door, told the people who we where and that we needed to search their home.  An old man let us in and we began to search while an interpreter and some of our guys had tea with the elder.  The women were led out into the courtyard and separated from the men, about 7 all of whom were sons of the elder man.  Food and drinks were presented and it was explained to them why we where there and an apology was made for disturbing their daily lives.  They were shocked to learn of September 11th and offered prayers for the families and hope we would get those responsible.  Unlike western society, According to their tribal laws revenge in of itself is an acceptable reason. In one room a guy found an INFANT hidden under a pile of cloth.  The mother had hidden him their because the people had been told that we eat infants.  Our medic did a quick health survey on the child who was quickly reunited with his mother.  The mother was chastised for hiding him and endangering the child's life.  Food and formula was requested for the children of the entire village.  
     At that point one of the sections found a cache of weapons, ammunition, and Rocket Propelled Grenades in one of the rooms.  Also found was a stack of "Jihad against the infidels" propaganda.  At this point the elder gentleman became upset and began to complain about his youngest son.  He told us that he has been hanging out at the mosque, listening to one of the Mullah's who was always inciting people to fight for the Taliban.  He had tried to reason with him and other Mullah's had even told his son that Islam is not that way.  Like any obstinate teenager he would not listen and his father was at the end of his rope with his rebellious son.
   
     This is the moment a search team made it onto the roof.  Immediately they found a Markarov pistol in a shoulder rig someone had thrown in haste on the roof.  Another US soldier spotted a man hiding on the same roof, lying down against the 1-foot high retainer wall surrounding the roof edge.  The man immediately jumped up carrying an AK-47 rifle and jumped off the roof into the center courtyard.  He landed kitty corner to four of us who ended up online about 20 feet away.  Immediately upon gaining his balance he went for his rifle.  All of us swore he was going to give it up.  Instead he rotated it around, flipped the dust cover selector to automatic and let fly.  He managed to get almost half a magazine out at us before we ended his life.  He took 2 bullets in the chest and one in the head from all four of us.  The Chicom AK vest he wore full of magazines across his chest acted like body armor.  You could see the springs fly out as the plastic magazines shattered and bullets spilled freely out of it onto the ground.  Afterwards you could count 12 bullet holes in the wall behind us.  Just like "Pulp Fiction" none of us were hurt.  His father began to wail and ran to his son.  We were all heartbroken.  The kid was just past his sixteenth birthday.   We helped the family prepare for the funeral.   He made a choice and like most rebellious teenagers wouldn't listen to those who loved him.  He paid the price and created a tragedy.

The real evil in this event is the men who would twist his mind.  The ones that preach intolerance, ignorance and a political agenda that destroys the things that make us human.  The father was instrumental in making a case against the Mullah whom the Afghan Government arrested shortly thereafter.  Several of the village Jorga, or ruling council, wept when we took over an AQ lieutenants compound and turned the "wealth" over to the villagers.  The "wealth" consisted of hundreds of pounds of wheat taken at gunpoint from the villagers after a relief organization delivered it and schoolbooks and school supplies.  Hunger and ignorance are never the weapons of the righteous.
I sleep well at night.

Crumpp

[Holden McGroin]

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Originally posted by storch
As I have often said, I'm a poor example of Christianity, nuke'm all I say. God will sort out his own. Pretty well versed pagan I might add, or did you get the last norweigan pastor to write that exposition up for you?  
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Originally posted by straffo
You're Arnaud Amaury reincarnated ?
He said the exact same thing in front of Bézier during  the  Albigensians (spelling ?) crusade about 1200

Pope Innocent III had nukes?  

[Slash27]

I've never figured how religious Christians can reconcile God and soldiering.

Do you you sit there stroking your self ,trolling, and waiting for the slightest excuse to spew you ****ing bable? Ill bet your foaming at the mouth screaming at your monitor right now arent you? ****tard.

[Pooh21]

Originally posted by Slash27
I've never figured how religious Christians can reconcile God and soldiering.

Do you you sit there stroking your self ,trolling, and waiting for the slightest excuse to spew you ****ing bable? Ill bet your foaming at the mouth screaming at your monitor right now arent you? ****tard.

[Crumpp]

It is funny that Islam, Judaism, and Christianity all worship the same God.  I asked a Mullah once why Jews, Christians, and Muslims seemed to fight over religion so much.  Where exactly was the split besides the obvious one over Jesus Christ.

He explained me to entire lineage of Abraham and how his sons actually were the begining of all three and how there quarrel has continued to this day.  I had to laugh.  Seeing my amusement he asked what the joke was I saw.  Doesn't it seem kind of silly that we all worship the same divine Boss, yet some folks are killing each other over the middle management?  Wonder what the boss thinks of all this?

With that he laughed too, remarking we all have our crackpots to deal with....

Crumpp

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Crumpp
It is funny that Islam, Judaism, and Christianity all worship the same God.  I asked a Mullah once why Jews, Christians, and Muslims seemed to fight over religion so much.  Where exactly was the split besides the obvious one over Jesus Christ.

He explained me to entire lineage of Abraham and how his sons actually were the begining of all three and how there quarrel has continued to this day.  I had to laugh.  Seeing my amusement he asked what the joke was I saw.  Doesn't it seem kind of silly that we all worship the same divine Boss, yet some folks are killing each other over the middle management?  Wonder what the boss thinks of all this?

Crumpp

The more I learn the less I understand.

[Masherbrum]

"And the Beat goes on, the beat goes on.  Drums keep pounding rhythms to the brain, La Di Da Da di, La Di Da Di da."

Karaya