Author Topic: Who said it was a good idea to make peace with al-Sadr (Read 2336 times)

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **on:** July 05, 2004, 09:28:44 AM »

What did I tell you al-Sadr would do?

Remember what I told you Pongo?

At least you admitted you knew nothing about him.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124717,00.html

Now you know, at least you will if you can read.

I told you his word was worthless. He's a liar and a murdering thug.

Pongo · « **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2004, 10:09:21 AM »

Do we know what his word was? Do we know if he was promised a voice in the new goverment that has now been denied? We dont really know anything except that peace broke down.
Either way it was good to quiet him down for a bit to get the new dictatorship in place with minimum fuss.

storch · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2004, 10:11:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Do we know what his word was? Do we know if he was promised a voice in the new goverment that has now been denied? We dont really know anything except that peace broke down.
Either way it was good to quiet him down for a bit to get the new dictatorship in place with minimum fuss.

pfffffft. what a liberal this guy. Are you a muslim?

Crumpp · « **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2004, 10:20:47 AM »

This guy is just using "resistance and liberation" as a means to try and escape the crime of Murder. If he was really legitimate and cared about his country then he could easily form an opposition party and run in the elections. Launching rockets into an Iraqi neighborhood shows his true colors.

Crumpp

Pongo · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2004, 11:28:23 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
pfffffft. what a liberal this guy. Are you a muslim?

Ya Im a devout Muslim. Are you a devout Nazi?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2004, 11:33:47 AM »

Pongo,

I've met you and youre a cool guy so I'm really surprised by your posts here of late, why all the excessivly severe negativity about my country?

Thrawn · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2004, 11:38:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Do we know if he was promised a voice in the new goverment that has now been denied?

Yeah, probably by Kerry!

storch · « **Reply #7 on:** July 05, 2004, 11:52:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Ya Im a devout Muslim. Are you a devout Nazi?

I take offense at that question in that manner. You are discredited in my opinion. careful your ignorance is showing.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #8 on:** July 05, 2004, 11:54:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Crumpp
This guy is just using "resistance and liberation" as a means to try and escape the crime of Murder. If he was really legitimate and cared about his country then he could easily form an opposition party and run in the elections. Launching rockets into an Iraqi neighborhood shows his true colors.

Crumpp

If your country had not launched an illegal immoral war against the sovereign country of Iraq, Al Sadr would be just some chubby cleric no one ever heard about. Along with the prison abuse pictures and all the subsequent court martials and continuing investigations, you can't in any way claim 'the high road' as your own crump.
Al Sadr charged with killing one man...the US has killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #9 on:** July 05, 2004, 11:56:24 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
I take offense at that question in that manner. You are discredited in my opinion. careful your ignorance is showing.

you guys can dish it out...but you cant take it:rofl

Pongo · « **Reply #10 on:** July 05, 2004, 12:04:25 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Pongo,

I've met you and youre a cool guy so I'm really surprised by your posts here of late, why all the excessivly severe negativity about my country?

what did I say that was negative about your country. I was applauding them for controling this cleric politically. What is negative about that.

The thread starter is negative about your country. he is critisising the administrations handling of this cleric. I am supporting them.

So what are you talking about?

Stork asks me if Im a muslim. why didnt you pipe in about that? You dont care about that I guess. I ask him if hes a nazi and thats real bad.
Listen to yourself.
Eagler posts here that he thinks board members want to kill his family..You didnt post anything about that..
Your not a voice of reason here GH. Dont kid yourself. Your a hardline neo conservative brain washed war monger. You dont represent your country you represent the powers that currently control it. Critism of them or you or stork is not critism of America no matter how you wished it was so.

RTStuka · « **Reply #11 on:** July 05, 2004, 12:05:49 PM »

I dont listen to anything on fox news, only CNN!!!!

storch · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2004, 12:05:57 PM »

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Originally posted by xrtoronto
If your country had not launched an illegal immoral war against the sovereign country of Iraq, Al Sadr would be just some chubby cleric no one ever heard about. Along with the prison abuse pictures and all the subsequent court martials and continuing investigations, you can't in any way claim 'the high road' as your own crump.
Al Sadr charged with killing one man...the US has killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq.

Time alone will tell if it was a mistake or if the people of Iraq will indeed be better off for our actions. Even though there are no Arab democratic republics and perhaps the concept is too foreign for them there is a hope that perhaps it might work along the lines of the Turkish model.

If the war was illegal and immoral then the UN should be immediately denounced and disbanded as a costly and irrelevent entity. At the very least the UN should stop mandating that states comply with world standard behavior since what is mandated turns out to be immoral and illegal.

Pongo · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2004, 12:13:27 PM »

The irrelivency you derride is moslty a side effect of the US veto power. Should we do away with that? A veto is apperenlty not enought for neo conservative supporters. What is needed is a US right to order the UN to war.

If not for the power of the US to veto, Sanctions vs Iraq would have been removed nearly a decade ago. Then you would have to find even more comical excuses for the war in Iraq, but at least you wouldnt be able to blame it on the UN.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #14 on:** July 05, 2004, 12:14:57 PM »

It was your country that made the UN irrelevant by not obtaining their authority to launch this war. If only the US had waited and received that second resolution from the UN, you would have been able to legally wage war against iraq, with the help from your long time allies all over the world.
I will remind you that you had no opposition to the gulf war under GB senoir, nor did you have any oppostion to the Afghan war...we all supported and understood you.
This iraq war is very different.