Author Topic: Any updates or leads on the stutter bug? (Read 3876 times)

quig · « **Reply #30 on:** July 10, 2004, 03:45:05 PM »

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Originally posted by MOSQ
I'm at work right now, but I think when I looked last night AHII had grown via the new plane skins download to maybe 185MBs or so.

Hmmm... with no screen shots or anything extra in my AH2 directory (even temporarily deleted the Tcache folder):

This is not normal?

Paxil · « **Reply #31 on:** July 10, 2004, 03:58:01 PM »

It is only the flag that shows as read only, the folder and the files in it are not read only.

BTW: I am not currently getting any stutters at all... mines shows as read only too.

XP Pro NTFS

MOSQ · « **Reply #32 on:** July 10, 2004, 04:54:52 PM »

Quig,

My Entire HTC file is 191 MBS, 1117 files. Your HTC file is 401 MBs and 1414 files.

Interesting you have 30% more HTC files and more than double the MBs.

My cache file is 845 files taking up 82.4 MBs. Your cache file is 827 files taking up 142 MBs. You have fewer files but almost double the data in cache.

I'm running 512 textures. Are you running the 1024 textures?

The HTC file is because I have just reinstalled, so I don't have all the maps. And no films. Films can take up a huge space.

But that dosen't explain the cache difference, unless you have the larger textures.

MOSQ · « **Reply #33 on:** July 10, 2004, 04:59:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Paxil
It is only the flag that shows as read only, the folder and the files in it are not read only.
XP Pro NTFS

Unless there is a bug in the Patch 3 -5 code that has caused some folks systems to treat them as truly read only.

My stutters started with Patch 3, everything was fine before that. So something happened....

quig · « **Reply #34 on:** July 10, 2004, 05:12:15 PM »

Thanks for the response.

The difference is I haven't ran the film viewer in a long time. I'm betting you have recently?

Just watched a few films, and now the cache folder is showing 242 files, 41 MB total size.

I made a copy of my cache folder before running the film viewer (got the idea from another thread about the film viewer clearing out the cache), so I still have the original folder.

But I'll lay money that's what the difference was

Try making a back-up copy of your cache folder, clear out the original folder, play online for an hour or so and watch the file size jump way up. But as soon as you run the film viewer, it will cut the file size dramatically.

Doesn't seem to make much a difference in-game. I get the stutters either way.

I do have an idea of what might be causing my problem, but I need to check into it more.

Thanks for bringing that up though... more insight for us all.

Waffle · « **Reply #35 on:** July 10, 2004, 05:52:30 PM »

hmm, my cache folder is showing 198Mb in 900 files / 30 folders.

just ran film viewer - down to 11.5MB, 90 files / one folder (stdshape)

Jackal1 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 10, 2004, 05:57:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Paxil
It is only the flag that shows as read only, the folder and the files in it are not read only.
XP Pro NTFS

Their showing read only in mine and I can`t change them because the revert back.

Waffle · « **Reply #37 on:** July 10, 2004, 06:01:21 PM »

ok just did the "stock" re-cacheing from using film editor, back into AH2. After the chache i have 823 files in one folder.

going to look at all lplanes / skins now.

WilldCrd · « **Reply #38 on:** July 10, 2004, 06:52:04 PM »

hmm lets all compare.
My AH2 folder properties:

My AH2 cache folder properties:

anybody else noticeing differences or is it just me? I've veiwed all A/C and G/v's in hanger AND flown or driven everything

I had 2 films and 5 screenshots after delteing them it brought my
AH2 size to 251mb
size on disk to 312mb
containing 2,564files and 117 folders

Also I use mitsue's sound pack

windows XP pro

WilldCrd · « **Reply #39 on:** July 10, 2004, 06:59:34 PM »

Big difference between me and quig
150mb on size
and 89 mb for size on disk

WilldCrd · « **Reply #40 on:** July 10, 2004, 07:20:00 PM »

on further examination when i gointo the cache folder then for instance stdshapes and select the properties of any of them the files are checked as archive.

So, if i'm understanding this correctly the MAIN files like your cache folder is "read only" the individual files are archive

for instence if you check the properties of "settings" it will say "read only"
if you check the properties on say 109e4.hps it will say archive.

I think thats what its supposed to be. the CACHE folder properties say read only because its the main folder and not supposed to change .
The "contents" of that folder are set"archive" becouse they are changeable

Im not a computer whiz I'm just trying to wrap my head around this so as to avoid a wild goose chase

I'm thinking the large variations in cache folder and AH2 folder sizes might be of concern though

Waffle · « **Reply #41 on:** July 10, 2004, 09:43:38 PM »

after playing ah2 for several hours now and looking at planes / gvs in hanger - im at 892 files 28 folder 191 Mb used.

SlapShot · « **Reply #42 on:** July 11, 2004, 08:55:00 AM »

If memory serves me correctly, the "A" flag (archive) is typically used for backup systems.

When a backup system runs, especially incremental backups, it will look at this flag and determine if the file needs to be copied.

It will then change the flag to ... I forget ... but as soon as the file is changed again, the OS will now change it back to "A".

Even tho the directories are flagged as read-only, we can rename or delete then without a problem. I also believe that the read-only attribute on the folders has something to do with the "simple file-sharing" that XP supports.

SlapShot · « **Reply #43 on:** July 11, 2004, 08:58:19 AM »

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Originally posted by WilldCrd
Big difference between me and quig
150mb on size
and 89 mb for size on disk

Does the "size" difference have to do with the texture size that each has chosen ?

Looks like the 89 MB is probably 256K size textures, while the 150 MB is probably the 1024K size textures.

Paxil · « **Reply #44 on:** July 11, 2004, 10:27:10 AM »

You are correct slap, that archive bit is just a backup flag... only makes a difference to backup software.