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Offline Supe

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« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2004, 02:52:17 PM »
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"When your neighbor with open borders is training their kids to hate you, you better care."

Well if they wanted to take us out, they have enough people in New York City alone to do it heh.

All joking aside, I understand your point. Hopefully the globalization of media and the Internet will contribute to more of a global sharing of ideas, combatting the brainwashing that national media tends to put on people. Things like these forums, or games, etc where people from all over the world join and play, help young people see how other folks from other countries exist. It'll take a while, but I think that we'll get a more global, less ignorant society in the next century.

But what do I know. I live in Toronto, which doesn't feel like a part of Canada at all :)

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« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2004, 02:52:34 PM »
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I suppose, although he did more to make the populace of those places despise than the leaders who already despised us.
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Now we're back to Fox News. A more "fair and balanced" view of world events might convince the "populace" of those places that we aren't so bad afterall and are really only doing what so badly needed to be done. Something that they would do themselves if they had a clearer perspective on the situation.
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« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2004, 02:56:33 PM »
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"When your neighbor with open borders is training their kids to hate you, you better care."

How do you think it feels when your much larger neighbor with nukes and the most powerful military in history is brain washing  thier children to hate the world, reject democracy and free thought  and persue global hegonomy?

I am looking out my office window at CVN 72 right this instance. That the thinking of how and where to use such a weapon comes from people that get thier policy decisions from O Reilly chills me.

But dont you worry. Some lick spittle conservative will get in power next year. Make Fox News manditory viewing, sell our hospitals to american corporations and our pension plans to american banks the whole time borrowing billions to fund some stupid kick back scheme disguised as a defense project or something.
Time is on your side. With such a huge and refined attack propoganda culture the US cant lose here. Fear sells. And fox makes a killing peddling it.


And you get you thoughts from libelous Books and Micheal Moore...

Just be honest, you're simply upset that the current administration has different policy ideas than you.  Inventing this fox news conspiracy fantasy might make you feel better about that but it also makes you look like a nut.  Fox news does not run the USA, OK pongo?  

And if it's  not OK then take a loom outised your office windsow and reconsider it...  ;)

It really is amazing how shocked liberals are when they see a consitently more conservative viewpoint coming out of their TVs.. Noooo now way how dare the newsrooom betray my values... How did CNN let this happend? Noooo!!!!
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« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2004, 03:00:34 PM »
"How do you think it feels when your much larger neighbor with nukes and the most powerful military in history is brain washing thier children to hate the world, reject democracy and free thought and persue global hegonomy?

I am looking out my office window at CVN 72 right this instance. That the thinking of how and where to use such a weapon comes from people that get thier policy decisions from O Reilly chills me. "

ewww... that does sound bad!   How is your neighbor brain washing their children to hate the world exactly?   How are they rejecting democracy?  Free thought?  This global hegonomy?  how is that being taught?

And... what exactly has O Reilly said that chills you?   No socialized medicine?   Peple should be responsible for their own acts?  

perhaps you are right tho and news sources that don't tow the liberal line are simply too dangerous and people are simply too stupid to be allowed to hear them... or... the liberal arguement is so weak that it can't stand any scrutiny?

My take is that Fox is pretty right leaning but mostly fair... I wouldn't want them to be the only news source but.... for a while there was no "right" view... the right was so unrepresented that when fox came along it slaugteered the communist news network (cnn)..

Cnn has seen the writing on the wall is much less of a rabid liberal station... slightly more centrous... ever since the first couple of sets of ratings came out.

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« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2004, 03:00:46 PM »
I've seen Fox News, and they really aren't fair and balanced.

The closest thing to "Fair and Balanced" is the Daily Show because they make fun of both sides, but that isn't news.

As far as doing what had to be done, not entirely sure about that one. But thats a different topic entirely.
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« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2004, 03:01:46 PM »
Hope you're right Supe. Definitely better to discuss and hash these issues among ourselves than sit back and believe everything we see on TV or read in the papers.

Certainly I know that Fox's motivation for broadcast in Canada isn't altruistic but rather financial. Still, America can use the positive image often presented by them. And if it's false, you can bet there will be plenty frothing to proclaim the lie.
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« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2004, 03:05:00 PM »
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Hope you're right Supe. Definitely better to discuss and hash these issues among ourselves than sit back and believe everything we see on TV or read in the papers.


I hope I'm right too. I think I am, but the problem is these things take so much time. A generation or two to get rid of the "set in the ways" mentality of older people. Flushing the system could take 50-100 years, but hopefully we'll become a bit more "global differences are cool" as opposed to "my country is better".

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« Reply #52 on: July 16, 2004, 03:10:52 PM »
You have to remember that up until a little over a decade ago America was at war with communism and it with us. The "my way of life is better" mentality was necessary in that war. I suspect that so long as Americans perceive injustice and inequality we will always be at war with it. At least that's my hope.
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« Reply #53 on: July 16, 2004, 03:23:03 PM »
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I suspect that so long as Americans perceive injustice and inequality we will always be at war with it. At least that's my hope.


For sure. Of course that brings us full circle, in that right now the news feeds us what is injust and inequal... you get the Bush side of things, then you get the Moore side of things saying how it's all a big manipulation. I just don't like the propaganda, one way or the other. One should ignore this stuff and just interact with people around the globe and share ideas. Too many people form an opinion based on skewed facts, and are fanatic about it. Nothing scares me more than young 20-something people believing in something too strongly... usually backed up with the aggressive nature that 20-somethings have as well. What's worse is when older people, say the government, foster this behavior for their own motivations. Use the media and human nature to drum up support for some "just cause", when really there are ulterior motives. Not pointing out any specific case, but one can see this happening all the time.

I'm not a political person for this reason. Keeping open and "international" in my mind as much as I can. Plus I try to keep a sense of humor, or else life would suck.

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« Reply #54 on: July 16, 2004, 03:36:42 PM »
hmm I got cable

no al-jazeera....got Fox channel....is Fox news like CNN?...on its own channel?

CNN,Fox news, NBC and other alphabet stations.....thats the news you watch....get this...ALL AMERICAN VIEWS.

now....to really be balanced....try watching news from around the world other the Alphabet soup news stations....

BBC World news is cool....actually shows NON-American POV's:aok

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« Reply #55 on: July 16, 2004, 03:43:11 PM »
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hmm I got cable

no al-jazeera....got Fox channel....is Fox news like CNN?...on its own channel?

CNN,Fox news, NBC and other alphabet stations.....thats the news you watch....get this...ALL AMERICAN VIEWS.

now....to really be balanced....try watching news from around the world other the Alphabet soup news stations....

BBC World news is cool....actually shows NON-American POV's:aok


n'oubliez pas les stations de qualité au Canada, comme TQS... ahh Blue Nuit. Je t'aime.

That was the best as a teenager, before the internet had lots of porn.

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« Reply #56 on: July 16, 2004, 04:20:52 PM »
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hmm I got cable

no al-jazeera....got Fox channel....is Fox news like CNN?...on its own channel?
 


Here, it's on it's own channel, like CNN. I haven't watched CNN in months, Fox is much better.
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« Reply #57 on: July 16, 2004, 04:24:38 PM »
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"For sure. Of course that brings us full circle, in that right now the news feeds us what is injust and inequal... you get the Bush side of things, then you get the Moore side of things saying how it's all a big manipulation. I just don't like the propaganda, one way or the other. One should ignore this stuff and just interact with people around the globe and share ideas. Too many people form an opinion based on skewed facts, and are fanatic about it. Nothing scares me more than young 20-something people believing in something too strongly... usually backed up with the aggressive nature that 20-somethings have as well. What's worse is when older people, say the government, foster this behavior for their own motivations. Use the media and human nature to drum up support for some "just cause", when really there are ulterior motives. Not pointing out any specific case, but one can see this happening all the time.

I'm not a political person for this reason. Keeping open and "international" in my mind as much as I can. Plus I try to keep a sense of humor, or else life would suck.
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How old are you, 12??

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« Reply #58 on: July 16, 2004, 04:30:08 PM »
Did you know Al-Jazeera is available in the US?


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« Reply #59 on: July 16, 2004, 04:32:12 PM »
When watching only 1 news service don't you thing you are helping the Goebbels wanabe ?