The VOSS CONSPIRACY... fascinating new book

[airbumba]

Avenger, I apologize, I doubt your Voss. That's too weird.

But I won't apologize for hating scumbag con artists.

I'll keep an eye on those names who do, they've given up their right to complain about telemarketing scammers, credit card scammers, ebay scammers and the likes. Because they didn't get taken, ever, and therefore never will, lol. Right.


Now you know how scammers get away with it, nobody's supposed to care till U get conned? ..sad, very sad.


BTW, I never put anyones squad down.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Isn't that great..what a way to bring the community together! Good on you!

Actually, you have made a great point Ripsnort, this is bringing the community together! It has given the entire community, with the notable exception of members of the 418th Hornets, a common enemy. Nothing is a greater unifying force than a common enemy, history enunciates this point very clearly. I compliment you Ripsnort, on your very accurate observation. I also would like to thank Fester for being the catalystic force in the community's unification! Fester

Zazen

[Trell]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
There is no question he has issues. But does it affect me flying in the same squadron as he? Nope!  Have I bought snake oil from the snake oil salesman? Nope!  Do I plan on retiring from the hornets because they have a dweeb in their squadron? Nope!  Do I give a rats *** about *my* "reputation" because I chose to stay on the squad when I found out he's voss? Nope!

I dont fly any more but i would almost think this would be a plus to join a squad with him.   I mean back in beta he was allways a good stick,  a little childish some times it seemed,  but  now we can all fly with the FAMOUS VOSS  the man who screwed over the community,  It would be like riding in Jessie James's gang back in the wild west.   lol

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
You'd have to have access to our squad BBS to see the story. Sorry.

Ripsnort,

If you’re basing some kind of trust of MegaTard/Voss on his posts in your BB, information that others outside of your squad can’t see, everyone will assume that he sold you a truckload of BS and you bought it.  I can certainly see not wanting to leave your buddies because of one tard, but why everyone in your squad wouldn’t want to boot him out is beyond comprehension.

eskimo

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by eskimo2
Ripsnort,

If you’re basing some kind of trust of MegaTard/Voss on his posts in your BB, information that others outside of your squad can’t see, everyone will assume that he sold you a truckload of BS and you bought it.  I can certainly see not wanting to leave your buddies because of one tard, but why everyone in your squad wouldn’t want to boot him out is beyond comprehension.

eskimo

I can only guess Voss is paying them off with money he stole from the community.

[Pongo]

Originally posted by Zazen13
Yea, so I guess OJ is innocent too?

Zazen

I never said he was innocent. A criminal is not someone who commits a crime or is accused of a crime. A criminal is someone who is convicted of a crime.

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there..the guy that cut it down isnt a logger.
At best he is an accused logger.( )

we can  describe Vosses behavior as criminal..but he is not a criminal unil he is successfully prosecuted for a crime.

I think its criminal that he took the name of a famous fighter pilot and disgraced it.

[mosgood]

Rip... resistance (or having your own opinion that doesn't comply) is futile.  You will be assimulated or distroyed.


BURN HIM!!!!!!:eek:

[jaxxo]

Tards. Every valid point I have made so far has been ignored. I'm starting to realise these boards are just a form of entertainment. Im beginning to catch on after posting for about a year now. Fester has the right idea..post some questionable topics and watch the dummies get themselves worked up over some meaningless topics and comments. Made for a fun morning of reading though

[Westy]

Poor Beaz.....


John \"OneMan\" Birkes (oneman@nwark.com)
    Subject: Re: T.A.S. What is it?  
    Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim
    Date: 1997/04/18
   
: > http://www.users.nwark.com/~vosswars/
:
: Cheers !!
:
: That's what I'm after... anybody give me the heads up about Tactical Aero
: Squadron?
:
: Regards  Daren
:
: beaz <13 Sqdn RAF>


T.A.S. is still under development. Just before Col. Paul "Voss" Hinds was
to release the "Alpha" version the upper echelon decided to heap more
requirements upon the game. This and Paul's subsequent health problems have
set the release back a few months already.

Realism is the hallmark of Paul's achievement. His clever manipulation of
colors, situations, weather, time of day, and historical intrigue binds
game play with immersion. Every aircraft of the game has been carefully
researched. When possible actual aircraft types have been test flown and
data confirmed. To my knowledge no one has ever put together such a
complete environment.

The development team has expanded to begin work on TAS the FEW. The
original game, TAS BoB, is such a highly optimized program that the game
had to be completely re-written for late war aircraft schemes to be
included. Bare metal finishes would never have been allowed with the BoB
code. In addition, a 3D ground war is under development. Anything more then
that cannot be discussed.

Currently, we are not concerned with dates. TAS will be released when it is
ready.

I hear Paul is scheduled for surgery for the last week of April. I spoke
with him last night. He is understandably not like himself but I feel
confident that he will bounce back.

John "OneMan" Birkes
Development Teams Coordinator
Pro-Line Software

[Citabria]

heh stuff like that westy is why there is 370 posts in this thread in 1 day lol.

just the audacity of it. the fact that it is just blatent bull**** being served up by paul hinds talking about himself under this ficticious alias.

its almost unreal.

[Westy]

Wahoooey.  Break out the shovels for it's getting deep.....



From: Paul \"Voss\" Hinds (vosswars@nwark.com)
Subject: Re: TAS CK AW2 WB

View: Complete Thread (36 articles)    
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim
Date: 1997/03/30
   

Well, let's see! I am the head programmer at Pro-Line. I do have a form of
brain cancer, but I am going to out live you all!

Pro-Line has 38 very bright programmers/CADists/etc. working on TAS the
FEW. This wasn't true just a month and a half ago. Things change. I started
a lot of them out by having them put together parts of TAS BoB. True, we
still haven't put all of the pieces together,...yet.

Will the average flier prefer TAS to AWII, or WB? I doubt it. TAS has a
very realistic "handling model." Notice I didn't say "flight model." I am
referring to, not only the flight model, but the ground handling of every
aircraft. Users will have to learn the specifics of aircraft types, cockpit
load, gunsights, radio procedures, even weapon specific ballistics are
included. You won't catch any German 20mm's possessing one muzzle velocity
in one plane, and another muzzle velocity in some other plane. It's the
same round, it flies the same. The cyclic rate of fire may vary, as it
should for specific weapons, but the velocity will remain the same.

I took great pains to make sure that every plane flies exactly as it
should. I went so far as to hunt down specific types and check them out
myself. That isn't easy, and you can still argue that actual aircraft of
the war period had different configurations from planes of today. While
that is true you will find that the essence, or flavor, of each aircraft is
well represented. (When you climb out of the Hurricane make sure you look
for the glycol soaked pants cuff on your right leg )

Technology of the Second World War has been carefully considered, and is
represented realistically. Radar? Well, yes, but not the radar you might
expect. Radar information is related verbally. Yes, TAS includes voice
communications. For people without microphones we have included a default
"Command" and "Intercom" vox command summary. Hit a button and your wingie
will hear your "Break right!" signal blare through his PC speakers (if you
have your radio set correctly). You can even use our built in utility to
change your "Break right" to Top Gun's "Holy ****, it's Viper!", if you're
so inclined.

I have seen furballs in these other sims last for 15-20 minutes, with ever
increasing intensity. I will be surprised to see a dogfight last even a few
minutes in TAS, and there won't be any dead guys killing you a mere minute
after you kill them.

We have weather too. Not just fog, or haze. We have actual weather fronts
that move. Weather can shut down flight operations for a particular field,
and you won't like that! We even have seasons represented. The camo schemes
on your planes will vary (if morale and operational levels permit
repainting) as the seasons change.

Oh, and there's much, much more...

Bear with us, as many have said you would. I have never understood how a
game can be a matter of life-or-death.

I made them all sign NDA's, though, so this ***hole is going to shutup and
sit down.

Paul "Voss" Hinds
Creator of "Tactical Aero Squadron"

[Citabria]

westy is there 36 pages of this bullsht? lmao

[2bighorn]

Originally posted by Pongo
I never said he was innocent. A criminal is not someone who commits a crime or is accused of a crime. A criminal is someone who is convicted of a crime.

The person who commits a crime is a criminal, the one who lies is a liar, as the person who works is a worker.

By your logic, the one who works isn't a worker because he isn't formally employed.

Originally posted by Pongo
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there..the guy that cut it down isnt a logger.
At best he is an accused logger.( )

What if there is a witness? What if everybody seen it? He's still not a logger because the case never ended up on the court?

Originally posted by Pongo
we can  describe Vosses behavior as criminal..but he is not a criminal unil he is successfully prosecuted for a crime.

BIG BS here. Person may be innocent and convicted, that doesn't make it a criminal, just convict.

Once more, criminal is a criminal whether convicted or not, and convict is a convict whether criminal or not.

Originally posted by Pongo
I think its criminal that he took the name of a famous fighter pilot and disgraced it.

Was he ever convicted? If not don't call him a criminal (so you said)

[Urchin]

BTW.. Jaxxo isn't one of Voss' "personalities".. they've both been in the MA at the same time.  


And Rip... how on earth could Voss have beaten Fester at "his own game in the MA?"  

He hasn't even been in the MA.

[Westy]

Got carried away posting some real choice bits.  

Soap box back to you....