Muscle Car Wars

[gofaster]

Originally posted by Redd
How is the new GTO going over there ?  a success ?  or too early to tell ?

We know it here as the Monaro - a 70's muscle car classic name  by GM over here

Too early to tell, really.  I haven't seen any on the streets yet but that might be because none have arrived in my area.  Looking at the stats, the Mustang seems to be the better vehicle.  The 2005 Mustang will certainly have better styling.

[FUNKED1]

I didn't mean to say these were the same as the original muscle cars.  Just that they have similar performance and position in the market, and there is a great HP war going on with one manufacturer responding to another.  Some of you guys are so busy thinking about "the good old days" that you are missing some pretty good times.

[gofaster]

Mazda is prepping its own entry for the Subie-Mitsu rally wars—a 276-hp, 265-lb-ft Mazda 6 scheduled for a mid-2005 world debut. Spotted during hot-weather tests in the California desert, this sizzling prototype gets a twin-turbocharged and intercooled 2.3-liter four that is mated to a six-speed manual gearbox and sends power via all-wheel drive to 18-inch tires.

Not so much a muscle car as a sports car, to me.  A WRC sports car to be precise.  Muscle cars are asphalt-only.

[slimm50]

Originally posted by J_A_B
I would call those sports cars, not muscle cars.  In the case of the Mazda Sedan, "sporty" car might be an even better term.


There's a difference.  Well at least there's a difference to me.  I guess Mazda can call them whatever it wants to though.


J_A_B

Yeah, I quite agree: the term "Muscle Car" is way over used these days. When I think of muscle cars I remember the Goats, 'Cudas, Chargers, Challengers, Z-28s, Mustangs, and Malibus, etc...

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by Redd
How is the new GTO going over there ?  a success ?  or too early to tell ?

We know it here as the Monaro - a 70's muscle car classic name  by GM over here

Too early to tell.  The rags have just started doing reviews on it.  I believe it was R&T that gave it a winning verdict over the SVT Cobra.

If the guys on Top Gear loved it, its good enough for me.  

PS:  Frenchy - Porsche doesnt make a car with a GTS badge.  GT3 maybe?

[J_A_B]

For some reason I was suddenly reminded of thge late great Johnny Cash



Well, I left Kentucky back in '49
An' went to Detroit workin' on a 'sembly line
The first year they had me puttin' wheels on cadillacs

Every day I'd watch them beauties roll by
And sometimes I'd hang my head and cry
'Cause I always wanted me one that was long and black.

One day I devised myself a plan
That should be the envy of most any man
I'd sneak it out of there in a lunchbox in my hand
Now gettin' caught meant gettin' fired
But I figured I'd have it all by the time I retired
I'd have me a car worth at least a hundred grand.


I'd get it one piece at a time
And it wouldn't cost me a dime
You'll know it's me when I come through your town
I'm gonna ride around in style
I'm gonna drive everybody wild
'Cause I'll have the only one there is a round.

So the very next day when I punched in
With my big lunchbox and with help from my friends
I left that day with a lunch box full of gears
Now, I never considered myself a thief
GM wouldn't miss just one little piece
Especially if I strung it out over several years.

The first day I got me a fuel pump
And the next day I got me an engine and a trunk
Then I got me a transmission and all of the chrome
The little things I could get in my big lunchbox
Like nuts, an' bolts, and all four shocks
But the big stuff we snuck out in my buddy's mobile home.

Now, up to now my plan went all right
'Til we tried to put it all together one night
And that's when we noticed that something was definitely wrong.

The transmission was a '53
And the motor turned out to be a '73
And when we tried to put in the bolts all the holes were gone.

So we drilled it out so that it would fit
And with a little bit of help with an A-daptor kit
We had that engine runnin' just like a song
Now the headlight' was another sight
We had two on the left and one on the right
But when we pulled out the switch all three of 'em come on.

The back end looked kinda funny too
But we put it together and when we got thru
Well, that's when we noticed that we only had one tail-fin
About that time my wife walked out
And I could see in her eyes that she had her doubts
But she opened the door and said "Honey, take me for a spin."

So we drove up town just to get the tags
And I headed her right on down main drag
I could hear everybody laughin' for blocks around
But up there at the court house they didn't laugh
'Cause to type it up it took the whole staff
And when they got through the title weighed sixty pounds.


I got it one piece at a time
And it didn't cost me a dime
You'll know it's me when I come through your town
I'm gonna ride around in style
I'm gonna drive everybody wild
'Cause I'll have the only one there is around.


Ugh! Yow, RED RYDER
This is the COTTON MOUTH
In the PSYCHO-BILLY CADILLAC Come on

Huh, This is the COTTON MOUTH
And negatory on the cost of this mow-chine there RED RYDER
You might say I went right up to the factory
And picked it up, it's cheaper that way
Ugh!, what model is it?

Well, It's a '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56
'57, '58' 59' automobile
It's a '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67
'68, '69, '70 automobile.