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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2004, 08:22:56 PM »
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Well Rooks did get the reset. Meddog and Polaris, nice original insight. Don't think i've seen your whine, errrr, comments before. Don't Blame Rooks for your troubles, I noticed Bish defections/logoffs enmass. Whilst we did have the numbers advantage, both Knits and bish did well to hold us off until your true and dedicated few gave up. Look in the mirror, that's where Knits and Bish will find is the real unfairness of the game.


Holy Christ, relax.  I'm not blaming anyone for anything.  We're saying it's not a real tactical accomplishment.  See the "beating up on the retarded kid" statement above.  Cause that's about spot on.

Take a pill already, would ya?

BTW, I'll be the first to admit the Knights are about the most unorganized group of people I've ever seen.
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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2004, 08:27:23 PM »
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my only guess as to why you are upset is either you lack the skills to organize something similar, or just want to be in your own "horde" flying your spit/nik/la7's


Wrong and wrong.  But you're welcome to try again.  Or is it that believing what you said makes you feel better about yourself?  If that's the case, have at it.

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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2004, 10:52:03 PM »
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Yes, brilliant time, thanks!  :)

It was actually at a castle in North East England - Walworth Castle

Here's a few pics of the Bride and Groom, with my sister's 5-year-old son from a previous marriage.  :D

 


Looks like a good time Flossy , I love that castle, tho 'm afraid of ghosts.lol

U never mentioned you had Harry potter jr. on u'r side! I hope u leave that witchcraft outta ur 88 in the BOB.lol

P.s.Your sis is almost as good looking as her sister .:)
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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2004, 02:10:41 AM »
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Looks like a good time Flossy , I love that castle, tho 'm afraid of ghosts.lol

U never mentioned you had Harry potter jr. on u'r side! I hope u leave that witchcraft outta ur 88 in the BOB.lol

P.s.Your sis is almost as good looking as her sister .:)
LOL, yeah it is supposed to be haunted, but I never noticed any ghosts while I was there. ;)  Fiona's son, Kieran, is a wonderful nephew, and often sounds much older than his 5 years.  He was extremely well-behaved the whole time.  Thanks for the kind comments, flatterer!  ;)
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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2004, 04:30:51 AM »
That battle along 61/62 area had to be the worst slug fest I've seen!

Our Rapid Thunder squad was otw to A9 when the JB's and I believe the Nightmares took and while still heavy, we proceeded to gain alt and get the orders to hit 61/62 (having a hard time remembering at 430am, but it was the south part of the Baltics) and we joked about the opposition, seeing that there were friendly bars in that area.
By the time we arrived, our buds have either been chased away or destroyed, and we descended in a divebomb attack into a hornet's nest. I went in full bore, and in the process of pulling out, I came up on a La-7 that was just cruising along. Engine screaming, I fired all 8 of my P-47's .50cals and tore that la-7 a new one. Then I got into a fight with another P-47 and I think it was a NIKI, but considering the hornet's nest, there were bogies all over.

True the reset took nearly 8 hours, I believe that the RJO did set it up, as even afterwards there were squads still using the same channel to continue operations.

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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2004, 07:34:27 AM »
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both Knits and bish did well to hold us off until your true and dedicated few gave up. Look in the mirror, that's where Knits and Bish will find is the real unfairness of the game.


Gave up?
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More like went to bed.
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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2004, 07:41:30 AM »
LOL .. same here Drediock. After coordinating things from 8:00 - 11:30 it was time to go to bed ... hate getting up to work the next day. But then again wife has told me in no uncertain terms that I can fly on Friday and Sunday but Saturday night is hers.

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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2004, 07:52:33 AM »
Call it what you want..an organized horde is still a horde. If someone challenged you to a fight and you brought 10 buddies with you is that considered an organized plan? I dont see how having a 100 plus player advantage can be fun. But then if i was on the other side....(hmmmmm) Its just human nature I guess..hell it makes me sick when i see 30 bish chasing a single con on the deck but they still do it. There is generally alot of laughter about the poor soul in the spit who got ganged following the slaughter. The side with numbers racks up kills, takes bases and decreases the chance of getting killed dramatically...all the while landing mass squad kill sorties..of course their gonna have fun. Like i said its human nature to exploit an opportunity, especially in a video game. (vulch anyone? )

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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2004, 08:51:24 AM »
LOL Yup, I was there,  61-62 was a great fight indeed. But then again the numbers never got overwhelming and it seemed only a few serious efforts were made on the rooks part to make any headway. A Move that kinda surprised me.
I was there in Several Panzers, an Osti a  couple Tigers, Several times in 190's Tiffies and even a few FM2's.
Had the most fun in the air in the FM2's. (I was the one that kept comming in and nailing your barracks and dar)
but that wasnt what was most fun about it.
The Fun part was outmanuvering all those planes that gave chase often if not killing them outright. causing them to auger.
At one point  in one flightI had 4 legit kills  1 vulch and caused 4 others to auger trying to keep up with me( a tactic I practice in the FM2) before one of the remaining planes finally got me was truely a blast.
Had 4 or five more similar flights including one I landed that got me 16.5 perks. But that one I was eventually shot down in was easily the most fun.
Another time I actually managed to fight my way in and get my tank onto the feild at 62 and had it along side of a hangar when a feild ack came up and took out my turret. Killed that feild ack with the hull gun. Right after that another feild ack came up and I ran out of ammo before I could kill it. Musta been an auto ack cause it must have been hitting me at a hardpoint cause all it managed to do was take out my left track.
 Right after that a plane came in and killed my engine and then my right track. Inasmuch as the feild ack showed no signs of being able to kill me I figured I'd sit there a while and let it shoot at me rather then any friendly planes that may be comming in.
Musta sat there a full 15 minutes with what seemed like 10 planes trying to strafe me down and having zero success in doing so. Collected 9 proxie kills from people augering trying ot get me on top of the 3 panzers and 2 planes I killed with my main gun before it got knocked out I was LMAO as plane after plane after plane dove in on me. What was amusing is My tank was useless yet everyone was treating me like I was the gravest threat on the planet I just sat there cause I figured as long as all these planes were pointlessly diving on me there were that many less to be diving on or shooting at my countrymen.
Eventually VH musta came back up cause something popped me with a single ping that sounded like a tank round and I was back in the tower.
Was the most amusement I've had just sitting there and doing nothing in a long time. Plane comes in tatatatatat BOOM he augers


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Well, it may not even out the numbers, but the benefit of cheap access to perk vehicles and aircraft does tend to offset numbers.

Last evening, during the RJO, my squad was assigned to hold the line against the Knights. So we flew for most of the evening at A62, defending. Numbers were generally equal, but the never ending parade of Knit 262s was amusing. Only a handfull were interested in actually fighting. Most were content to fly around above the fight in the hope that they could cherry pick some guy distracted with other fighters (a common 262 practice regardless of country).

I seem to recall that I saw you there too in a Panzer.

I spent time in F4U-1D, Spitfire V and even flew a sortie in a N1K2. I even ran a couple of resupply goons in. There was a small group of jokers who were flying out of A60. Their whole purpose was to grab a 190 or an La-7 and head to A62 in pairs or alone. Whereupon they would dive on the field and try for a vulch or two before getting whacked. When one of them nailed my SpitV on the rearm pad, I took up a Corsair and went on a dweeb hunt. These guys were trying to sneak in below the radar. While we had a couple of us on station south of our field, most didn't make it.

Another funny sight was the number of former fuel porkers who still insisted on strafing fuel tanks, despite it not being possible to reduce the fuel below 75%. Old habits die hard I guess.

All in all, the fight between the Knits and Rooks was a good old-fashioned even-up brawl. If you enjoy furballs and GV battles, A61 and A62 were the places to be last night. When I finally logged off, no fields had exchanged hands and the fight was still going strong.

Those squads assigned to defense against the Knights almost certainly had more fun than those involved in the Rookskrieg against the Bishops. There was no lack of targets and willing enemy for either side.

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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2004, 09:07:27 AM »
Call it what you want Jaxxo .. the Rooks did not hit either side with 100+ player advantage. We split the forces close to 60% versus the Bishops and 40% versus the Knights.

From what I could tell 80% of the Bishops fought the Rooks ... 100 fighting around A39, A22, A23, A25.

That is roughly 135 rooks versus 90-100 Bishops. About a Rooks advantage 35 at around 9 - 11 .. at 8 - 9 I think more Bishops were messing with the Knights and then shift into defense mode later.

While against the Knights I would say roughly 70% of the Knights fought the Rooks along a very small font .. 2 bases with no real room to maneuver.

That is roughly 90 Rooks versus 87 Knights at A61, A62, and A60 area. Numbers there were roughly equal or maybe say up to 10 plane advantage to the Rooks.

The RJO squad purposedly split things this way .. 40% to the South to stop the Knights drive on the Rook homeland while the others went after the Bishops to drive them back. Not all 225 Rooks attacked one front at once.

Alot of the fun factor for the RJO squads comes from doing types of missions that usually don't happen unless you are a big squad with large turnout.

For example AirMAgeddon, NightHawks, and SkyKnights conducted bomber operations through out the night against fields and strat targets. While other squads provided escort to targets and back.

Several squads set up screen and sweep missions .. 412th comes to mind .. instead of just capping a field and mindlessly vulching as what usually happens in the MA. Others did JABO role .. others gooning supplies and troops and other escorting goons.

So what the organization did was allow for more complex roles and mission types to be done in the MA because it allowed for several squads to come together and complement each other.  A 5 person squad could go bombing while another squad provided escorts .. instead of just bombing with no escorts or support.

At the beginning of the night (8 pm EDT) the Bishops were in the lead with around 36 bases and the Rooks had about 12.

Imbalances do happen and sunday night just happens to be the night most Rook squads have their squad night. RJO just also happened this time to fall on that night so it was also organized.

But imbalances happen other nights too .. last night at 9 pm EST in the MA it was 157, 106, 124 (Bishop, Knight, Rook). At 10 pm EST it was 183, 128, 139. Not as severe as sunday but still a smaller imbalance. Where the major imbalance could have happened on sunday is if the Knights and Bishops refused to stop fighting each other while the Rooks started operations. This didn't happen .. the Knights and Bishops through the bulk of their forces (whether organized or just happened) into defense against the Rooks and fought some well run battles and defenses and refused to give up ground without a fight. Well done.

What it looks like is that depending on the time and day either the Rooks or Bishops are fielding numbers while the Knights now are the country with low numbers.

I know HiTech likes the idea of not letting people switch countries to the country with the largest numbers .. this to stop the complaint of independents or others switching to the bigger side to gain perkies or whatever.
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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2004, 09:14:51 AM »
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LOL Yup, I was there,  61-62 was a great fight indeed. But then again the numbers never got overwhelming and it seemed only a few serious efforts were made on the rooks part to make any headway. A Move that kinda surprised me.


Well our first goal was to stabilize the Knight front while we retook land lost in the North and in the central area (A12, P7, V11, A9, A10) of our mainlaind by the Bishop earlier. Basically to get the Bishop away from our strat targets and from hitting our HQ with buffs and strat factories with JABOs.

Later was having a time breaking the defenses at A39 (god the Bishops were stubborn there .. 2 hours to break it and that was with constant bomber missions, JABO ops, and setting up fighter screens .. and two very serious GV attacks .. LVT and GVs from 10s). If any Bishop was organizing the defense there .. he and his squad did a good job.

Then had to put down an organized Bishop counter attack in the north around A22. Whole A22, A23, and A25 area sucked up lost of resources.

So from 9-11 never had the excess forces to really send to the South to try to start an offensive. At once point I think sent down CAF in bombers and Rapid Thunder in JABOs when it got really hot.  But as said was busy in North and Central area with some very dogged defenders.
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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2004, 09:53:02 AM »
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my only guess as to why you are upset is either you lack the skills to organize something similar, or just want to be in your own "horde" flying your spit/nik/la7's .
No....we want to up 190's and make 550mph Vulch passes down the runways then extend for 10 miles , then U-turn and repeat. Then a few of us will land our hard earned kills together and wait for the shower of WTG's from our countrymen:rolleyes:

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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2004, 11:51:26 AM »
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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2004, 01:25:13 PM »
I don't care to get started on the numbers whine, but I will say this: At no time when the rook numbers are astronomical was the Bishop/Knight frontline quiet.

Spare me all the canned responses regarding organization. Not everyone likes to fight 6 to 1 odds (fortunately, I'm not smart enough to avoid them, so I still have fun), and those folks (bishops and knights) wind up fighting on the 'fringe'. While this makes for more interesting fights for those folks, it skews the numbers along the major fronts even more.

Its great that you guys are that dedicated to 'gameplay' to get so many people airborn at once. There were definitely some fun fights, but its got to be disheartening for the newer players or those trying to improve their flying skills.

Anyway, cheers, flame away...

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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2004, 02:50:32 PM »
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I don't care to get started on the numbers whine, but I will say this: At no time when the rook numbers are astronomical was the Bishop/Knight frontline quiet.


Never said it was .. I said I thought about 70% of the Knights and 70% to 80% of the Bishops were fighting rooks. The rest were fighting each other .. so 25 - 37 Knights and 25-37 Bishops fighting each other.

Knight Rook Front about equal with maybe a 10+ plane advantage to Rooks.

Combined Bishop Rook front about 30-40 plane advantage to Rooks.
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