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Offline mietla

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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2004, 07:12:39 PM »
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... Otherwise he should stay in his socialist paradise.



You would deprive an old man his Social Security and other entitlements?  How heartless.

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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2004, 07:17:02 PM »
I don't believe that any statute of limitation applies to a major crime.

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Offline Lizking

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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2004, 07:32:57 PM »
What I want to know:  Is there a statue of limitations on being ignorant?

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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2004, 07:40:38 PM »
Life sentence for you, Lizking!

j/k!

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Offline jEEZY

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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2004, 07:45:26 PM »
Art. 43 of the Uniform Code of Military justice

(a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war, or with any offense punishable by death, may be tried at any time without limitation.

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(c) Periods in which the accused is absent without authority or fleeing from justice shall be excluded in computing the period of limitation prescribed in this section (article).

(d) Periods in which the accused was absent from territory in which the United States has the authority to apprehend him, or in the custody of civil authorities, or in the hands of the enemy, shall be excluded in computing the period of limitation prescribed in this article.

Seems like there is no limitations period.  Note that the Supremes have not ruled that  a statute of limitations is a necessary component of procedural due process.

However, this guy might be able to weasel some sort of "diminished capacity defense."  Doubtful, though.

Note well that those subject to the UCMJ do not have the same Constitutional protections that civilians are afforded.  Not exactly somthing that they advertise at recruiting stations.

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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2004, 07:49:27 PM »
Oh and generally there is a five year statue on Federal Criminal stuff.  However, the Feds rarely let that get in the way--and Congress pretty much has plenary control over the modification of limitation periods.

There is no limitations period for capitol crimes and some organized crime stuff (mostly drug related).

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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2004, 07:56:40 PM »
Have we shot him yet?

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« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2004, 07:57:20 PM »
Hey Grunz! :)

All well?

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« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2004, 08:00:24 PM »
UCMJ art. 85 (desertion)

(1) Completed or attempted desertion with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 5 years.

(2) Other cases of completed or attempted desertion.

    (a) Terminated by apprehension. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 3 years.

    (b) Terminated otherwise. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 2 years.

(3) In time of war. Death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.


Only shoot him during a time of war.  Last "war" was WWII, Korea was a UN shindig--dont think they can cap him.

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« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2004, 08:04:03 PM »
SEND HIM TO GUANTANAMO BAY!

that will show him

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« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2004, 08:05:22 PM »
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Oh and generally there is a five year statue on Federal Criminal stuff.  However, the Feds rarely let that get in the way--and Congress pretty much has plenary control over the modification of limitation periods.

There is no limitations period for capitol crimes and some

Reguardless.....if somone is charged w/ desertion it does not matter how long....he is basically a convicted felon after that.

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« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2004, 08:08:54 PM »
Hiya Gunsliger!

I don't get on the boards much since they installed a new bit of software in the office which now tells me, when I try to get here:

'You have been attempting to access a pornographic website - your attempt has been recorded' or some such.

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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2004, 08:10:40 PM »
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Of course, I've heard some people argue that merely criticising the US President is giving aid and comfort to the US's enemies.


of course it could also be argued that even voting for Bush is giving aid and comfort to one of the biggest enemies of our country.

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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2004, 08:16:20 PM »
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of course it could also be argued that even voting for Bush is giving aid and comfort to one of the biggest enemies of our country.


really? id like to see someone argue that. what in your opinion makes the cic an enemy of the usa?

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« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2004, 08:17:10 PM »
of course, it could also be argued that taking polarised positions allows you make nonsense of what anyone is saying when you extend speech to absurdity.

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