Author Topic: Wise words that makes me proud to call myself Swedish (Read 1400 times)

Naso · « **Reply #45 on:** July 21, 2004, 10:13:00 AM »

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Originally posted by bozon
WWII as an argument for present day issues is indeed well over used. It's dead and gone and we are now entering the 3rd generation after the war. time to move on, lesson learned.

what people forget is that that the peace-time europe is experiencing now is the result of about 1500 years of wars (if we only start counting it after the fall of the roman empire) including 2 of the most terrible wars in history. In Israel we are shedding blood for only 100 years or so. Give us 1000 years more and them check on us again...

The fact is that too many people do not make a difference between an Israeli and a Jew. That includes Swedes by the way - I have Jewish friends in sweden (born there) who can testify to that and had an unpleasant experiance there myself (though the guy recognized me as an Israeli and was definitly not a native swede. I have a very good guess about his faith too, but one case is not statistics).

If you measure a country's importance by media coverage, then Israel IS a super-power right there next to the US. I still can't belive that 7-8 million people fighting over a few kilometers of cursed, half-desert land attracts more foreign reporters than the entire african continent with it hundred and thousands dead per day - but nobody gives a $h!t about africans, we are much more interesting.

my suggestion is that Israel and the palestinians start charging money for every reporter who publishes a story about israel and split the money 50-50. This will really boost both our economies.

On a second thought, this money will most likely be used to get better weapons to kill each other, so forget I mentioned it.

Bozon

I LIKE this man !!!!

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No, NOT in THAT way, Dowding!!!

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Very nice post Seeker,

Pongo · « **Reply #46 on:** July 21, 2004, 10:16:29 AM »

Are even americans saying that shell somehow undestroyed when 10s of thousands where destroyed justifies Iraq as having MWD? The truck that was sent to destroy it was bombed by a southern watch F18 and never made it there.lol

Maniac · « **Reply #47 on:** July 21, 2004, 10:29:56 AM »

Very good post bozon, never tought about it that way.

Hortlund · « **Reply #48 on:** July 21, 2004, 11:53:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Naso
ROTFL, a good one Hortlund!!!

The artillery shell contained 3-4 litres of Sarin. From the looks of your post you either didnt know that, or you dont understand what Sarin is.

Hortlund · « **Reply #49 on:** July 21, 2004, 11:56:53 AM »

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Are even americans saying that shell somehow undestroyed when 10s of thousands where destroyed justifies Iraq as having MWD? The truck that was sent to destroy it was bombed by a southern watch F18 and never made it there.lol

The thing is that the definition of WMD is not up for discussion. This is really very simple.

The UN has stated that N, B or C = WMD. You can find this in UNSC resolution 687.

Sarin = C, ergo Sarin = WMD.

This is an objective fact. It is not up for discussion. Period.

I see that many people think there is another interpretation of WMD, something along the lines of WMD = justification for war. Then they apply this definition of WMD and apply it on the shells and rockets with Sarin that has been found in Iraq and they dont see the justification for war.

This part however is a subjective opinion.

"When have we found enough justification for war" is completely unrelated to "have we found WMDs in Iraq".

Maniac · « **Reply #50 on:** July 21, 2004, 12:28:05 PM »

Anti-americanism? what about Anti-Europeanism? far more widespread imho.

Nilsen · « **Reply #51 on:** July 21, 2004, 04:21:33 PM »

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xrtoronto · « **Reply #52 on:** July 21, 2004, 04:29:57 PM »

cc nilsen...thx!

Nilsen · « **Reply #53 on:** July 21, 2004, 04:37:03 PM »

demaw1 · « **Reply #54 on:** July 21, 2004, 08:51:04 PM »

World war two is dead and gone...Dear God how I wish we would have stayed out of that war.

Nilsen · « **Reply #55 on:** July 22, 2004, 03:06:31 AM »

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Originally posted by demaw1
World war two is dead and gone...Dear God how I wish we would have stayed out of that war.

I bet all countries wished that

Angus · « **Reply #56 on:** July 22, 2004, 07:56:10 AM »

Here I saw a nice one
"The Americans sent less pilots to the Battle of Britain than even Poland. "

They didn't send pilots. They had their own initiative to join and went through Canada mostly.

Oh, they found Sarin in Iraq, right?

Maniac · « **Reply #57 on:** July 22, 2004, 07:59:04 AM »

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Oh, they found Sarin in Iraq, right?

Did they find the WMD´s they were after? or was it this 155Ml that was the big threat al along?

Hortlund · « **Reply #58 on:** July 22, 2004, 08:31:29 AM »

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Did they find the WMD´s they were after?

Well, they have found one of them. Or 19 of them to be exact.