Author Topic: Bush Talk on 9-11 report today. (Read 1834 times)

Lizking · « **Reply #75 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:08:07 PM »

Nash, you still don't get it. If you are interested in the Southern mind, read Faulkner.

For the debate, his tone will depend upon the tack Kerry takes.

With Ann Richards, for example, she stayed down home, since that really is her limit. She is a great lady, but she can not make the transition away from being a Good ol Boy. Bush can, and the worst thing Kerry could do would be to condescend to Bush. He will eat him alive with the "Brangs" and "Ya'lls" if he does, just because that is the natural reaction.

If, on the other hand, Kerry treats him with a modicum of respect, then Bush will speak as the Harvard MBA that he is. Not a conscious decision, just the way it is.

Thrawn · « **Reply #76 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:14:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
Look at the big brain on Toronto!

Taken literally, that's a very disturbing image.

Nash · « **Reply #77 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:14:57 PM »

Ya got to pity the man. Whether one agrees with his policies or not you must admit he has NOT had a happy presidency.

As I've said before, I bet Gore gets down on knees every night and thanks God that he is NOT in the White House.

Mediocre times makes for mediocre Presidents. At least they make it seem that way, much to Clinton's dismay.

But these aren't mediocre times...

Nowadays, you are either great or trash. A rare opportunity for a President, if you wanna view it inna perverted Nietzschesque kinda way.

Nash · « **Reply #78 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:19:31 PM »

I'm with ya Lizking... I think I understand.

Still the question remains... for me...

If his affectation is a polorized opposite reaction to whats in front of him, what does it say when his entire presidency has been conducted with the "yalls" persona?

Lizking · « **Reply #79 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:21:33 PM »

It basically says that no matter what he does, he will be hammered with the preconception, so he may as well feed it and use the tactical advantage that it provides.

Nash · « **Reply #80 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:24:49 PM »

Hammered with the preconception?

He manufactured that preconception for (if your theory is correct) political gain.

Now somehow he's at the mercy of it, so he might as well milk it?

Lizking · « **Reply #81 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:33:58 PM »

Nope, it is not fake, it is not a mask. Visit the South and/or read Faulkner, I have tried my best to 'esplain it.

Shuckins · « **Reply #82 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:34:18 PM »

Nash, the old "Kingfish" from Louisiana, Huey Long, was pretty good at this game.

Upon reflection, I have sometimes used the same trick. It usually falls out like this. Having been introduced to a stranger from another area of the country, I sense from their expression or tone of voice that they are amused or put off by my accent. My reaction is often to deepen their misconception of me as a semi-literate Southern hick. If I'm having to work with this person, reinforcing their feelings of superiority gives me an advantage in dealing with them. (Pahdun me mayum...but I'm not sure ah understan what you mean by that!)

Nash · « **Reply #83 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:38:18 PM »

K...

Finally... I think I've got it.

Not a mask... Something real.

But something you can either turn off or turn on (even amplify) depending on the circumstances.

Do I have it?

Shuckins · « **Reply #84 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:44:53 PM »

Yep...sounds like it to me...I hereby dubya an honorary Suthenah.

Congratulations.

Lizking · « **Reply #85 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:48:17 PM »

Turning it on and off is not a good analogy, but if that is the only way you can understand it, then understand that the part he is adjusting is the Harvard MBA part, not the Good ol Boy part.

Nash · « **Reply #86 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:57:59 PM »

But that's the essential part of the equation to me, Lizking... So I must still don't get it.

Is he Harvard turning on/off the South or is he the South turning on/off Harvard?

NUKE · « **Reply #87 on:** July 23, 2004, 12:01:33 AM »

Nash, picture xtoronto in reverse. Bush is an intelligent guy who tries to come off as stupid.

Lizking · « **Reply #88 on:** July 23, 2004, 12:06:14 AM »

You don't get it. You are assuming that he is a shallow cardboard cutout, when he is not. That is the mistake a lot of people make when they hear a Texan or a Cajun or a Brooklynite talk.

Shuckins · « **Reply #89 on:** July 23, 2004, 12:13:27 AM »

Perhaps it would help to think of it as two facets of the same personality. I think what Liz is trying to say is that most Southerners have this type of personality. I tend to agree with that. Each facet is displayed when the situation requires it. Each is just as "real" as the other. Ergo...Bush can no more discard it than I can...he just modifies it when events make it necessary to do so.