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Offline Hajo

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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2001, 10:19:00 PM »
OHIO and HMR hiyas!  good to see you here.  the first thing you will notice here is a community of people who know lots about aircraft and flight modeling.  the competition is a lot steeper, and so is the learning curve.

You'll notice a better performance of  aircraft here then in AW, and you'll also come up in general against stiffer competition IMHO.  flight modeling is much better, the graphics are great, roger wilco instead of vox etc etc.  You'll also notice a lot of us old hands from AW are here.

I for instance am in vatis' squad, mostly a mix of former air warriors, and some AH participants from the beta days.

Download AH and give it a try.  Most of us think it's worth the money to participate here.  carriers, field gunners, ship gunners, panzer tanks, ostwinds, and PT boats give the game a nice diversity.  andddddddddddddd LOL remember to log on and select Bishops as your country <G>  the flying circus welcomes all   :D

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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2001, 12:25:00 AM »
The connects to AH are wonderful!!  Just ping it.  The main reason I left AW was the connect.

Customer service is far superior also.  We of AH are a bunch of spoiled simmers :D  Great graphics,great connects,great customer service, and a sim that is just plain getting better and better as time passes!!

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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2001, 01:25:00 AM »
This is a really nice post  :D

AH is currently top of the line when it comes to online sims.

And with the everlasting developement of the game, it will be hard to beat.
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2001, 03:00:00 AM »
S!

 Ohio..Just do the 2 week free trial and decide.I have flown AH for about 4-5 months now and like it pretty much.It is not perfect but one of the best available now.WB is the other,especially WB3, when ready in the future.AH pretty much offers something to everyone,but the bias has shifted a bit towards fighter action IMO.H2H is a blast in AH.We regurarly use it for squad training to improve our performance(I haven't noticed any on mine  ;))...Jump in and test is my advice Ohio.

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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2001, 03:25:00 AM »
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Originally posted by OHIO:
[OHIO a.k.a. The Big Buckeye[/QB]

Are you the same OHIO that was in the 19th on AW?

I think there are more people in AW that know ACM than in AH.  AW is not getting new customers and most of the guys who are left can fly well.  There are many people in AH who will Head-on and then flat turn on the merge, you don't see that too much in AW    :)

Of course AH is much more advanced and is just a better game than AW.  You should join us.  The main adjustments for the AW pilot:

1.  Head ons!  This will bug the hell out of you until you get used to avoiding it.  
Once you learn to lead loop/lead turn on the HO dweebs you will be looking forward to someone trying it.  
When someone with alt attacks pulling up to force a HO merge is usually unsafe in AH.  Most AH people will split-S when attacked from above.  I think this one reason AH fights end up on the deck faster than AW fights.

2.  Collisions!  If you don't go HO this will not be a problem, as long as you remember not to 'run people through' when diving on them like you can in AW.

3.  Black outs are easier to manage in AH than AW.  All you have to do is release pressure on the stick and the black out will lift.  The black outs are much more gradual and you can also still turn when blacked out.

4.  AH has trim, but you don't need to mess with it if you don't want to.  Trim is useful for pulling up when compressed in dives, but once you learn the auto speed command you can also use that also to pull out.

5.  AH seems more smooth when the planes are close than in AW.  This means that forcing an overshoot and scissors technique is a more useful tactic in AH than AW.

6.  Relative plane performance is pretty much the same with some small differences.  Hellcats have a nasty stall, N1K2s turn better but are a bit slower, F4u climbs slower.... stuff like that.

7.  Whiners.  You might think that the high price of AH would reduce the number of people who are squeaky about getting shot down, but I don't think it does.  I got accused of cheating on my second day   :)


I advise you to learn the basic commands offline and in free HTH before you sign up for two weeks.  

Welcome   :)

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[ 06-08-2001: Message edited by: Montezuma ]

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2001, 06:48:00 AM »
OHIO;

AH is simply a cut above! Main reason IMHO, is that the people at HTC truly care about their product! Is it perfect? No but what is! Is it what EVERYONE wants/ expects? No... Oh well! You simply can't be all things to all people.

It is a significantly harder game to get used to. A lot of the old AW habits have to be discarded, and beleive me UN-learning something is HARD! The flip side to that  is the rewards are higher as a result.

Immersion factor- No comparison. I still marvel at the sunsets, the sunrises, the stars coming out and so on. The terrain is way better, the carriers look like carriers and on and on the list goes. Visually there is NO comparison.

Of course there is room for improvement but here in AH you can actually expect fixes and changes on a regular basis (2 weeks  pretty much means 2 weeks)!

I flew AW in the late '80s for a while, flew again early mid '90s, and yet again in late 2000- up until the EA fiasco. I'm MUCH more satisfied with AH!!

As many have said, and I agree, AH is harder- DON'T get discouraged. The 2 week free trial is a start, but you can't expect to really get a handle on the game in that amount of time... give it at least a month or so.

Damned Augie

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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2001, 07:50:00 AM »
Warrior's!

      Thank you for all your in-put, I will down load the game tonight and work with it a little off line before i take to the skys.

      I look forward to seeing you guys next weekend, I also have contacted some of Air Warrior Vet's to come over and check A/H out. They should be hitting the boards anytime now.

      Now, were's my "caution! Student Flyer on Board!" bumper sticker at???????

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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2001, 12:03:00 PM »
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OHIO,


The Cactus Air Force has made the move from AW to AH.

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 Hummm....I'm not sure if this rate as a "plus" for AH or AW    :)

    Hiya Gunner...how ya doing?
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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2001, 09:26:00 PM »
I think AH could learn a couple of things from AW.Check my Gameplay Forum post..<S!>
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