Author Topic: Who here uses rudder pedals ? (Read 1612 times)

wipass · « **Reply #30 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:55:29 AM »

Thanks

So ..... those that use pedals ... Are you saying that using pedals with AH you are able to obtain MORE rudder control or is it just easier to use this rudder control.

I am trying to ascertain if AH allows more rudder control to pedals as opposed to a twisty stick.

I have been using a twisty for around 5 years (WB and AH) and whilst I consider myself an average stick, I know I can do better and am looking for an edge.

I tried pedals once at a con and found them completely alien to use.

wipass

Xargos · « **Reply #31 on:** July 28, 2004, 04:05:51 AM »

If you have the money, get youself some CH pro pedals. Give it a month or two & you won't be able to live without them.

Flyboy · « **Reply #32 on:** July 28, 2004, 04:17:27 AM »

hi wip.

i used both a twisti and pedals, and i must say i didnt notice any difference in my abillity, exept up to a month or so after i switched to pedals where i felt like a cripple.

as i said earlier, the major difference is a the fun and immersion factors.

wipass · « **Reply #33 on:** July 28, 2004, 05:12:20 AM »

Hi save, ben

Well .. I guess I will have to invest to find out

wipass

wrag · « **Reply #34 on:** July 28, 2004, 06:07:37 AM »

Have some old TM Elite pedals that would never stay put. Hated em.

Got a set of CHPro peds and after flyin with em awhile and gettin used to em don't think I could ever return to twisty.

Had a TM AfterBurner that I liked because of the response but pots went bad fairly quick. Liked the rocker switch they had so went with X45 next but.....

Got nothin but CHPro now TY

Peds made by CHPro or SimPed are the way to go IMHO.

jaxxo · « **Reply #35 on:** July 28, 2004, 08:24:32 AM »

Ok heres the deal. I have had rudder pedals for awhile. They worked great in AW but I find they kinda suck in AH for flying fighters. They have no feel to them and seem to respond the same no matter how much input (how hard u push on them). I keep them around though because they are great for toebraking (differential input for left and right brake) and gunning on buffs (keeps plane from movin while in gun position) as well as working great with gvs (allows u to drive and shoot on the run very effectively). So they are worth the money despite their flying shortfalls....and you might like them yourself.

P.S. Ive tried every slider and damping combination with same poor results.

jaxxo · « **Reply #36 on:** July 28, 2004, 08:43:26 AM »

Oh yeah..I flew with a mouse for about a year and a half in here with pretty good success (avg 1000 kills a tod). The mouse really taught me how to use rudder sparingly. When you use rudder only when ya have to..you retain your e alot better. In this regard the pedals are better than the twisty (twisty gives ya alot of unintentional rudder input). Also if ya furball alot pedals are alot easier on your wrist. Thats all theory for me though cause I cant get them to work properly.

nsty1 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:00:23 PM »

This is(will be) my setup for pedals,all home-made.
modified through a saitek X-45.
The rest of the sim-pit is next:)

Morpheus · « **Reply #38 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:14:29 PM »

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Who here uses rudder pedals ?

People that die alot.

Jasta · « **Reply #39 on:** July 28, 2004, 05:04:42 PM »

I just upgraded from twisty stick to rocker bar, and i think its a lot better. It took a long time to get used to, and im still working on it. But now my plane retains E better because i dont use as much rudder.

As for pedals, I cant imagine doing well with pedals. I fly the real thing 2-3 times a week and i would find it hard without the feedback from real rudders. Its very important to flying straight.

Murdr · « **Reply #40 on:** July 28, 2004, 06:58:43 PM »

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Originally posted by nsty1

This is(will be) my setup for pedals,all home-made.
modified through a saitek X-45.
The rest of the sim-pit is next:)

WTG nsty1. In the early 90s when wheel/pedal controlers for pc racing were nearly $200 I went that route also, cost me about $40 in parts. I like the pivot design you have there, very clever.

JB73 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 28, 2004, 07:10:58 PM »

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Originally posted by nsty1

This is(will be) my setup for pedals,all home-made.
modified through a saitek X-45.
The rest of the sim-pit is next:)

those seem to only actuate like gas / brake pedals. thats what the toe brakes are for

i see those C brackets holding the axis the pedals occilate on, am i missing something?

Boat · « **Reply #42 on:** July 28, 2004, 07:56:01 PM »

I've used twisty sitck, rocker and now pedals. I never liked the twisty sitick because I was getting a lot of inadvertant rudder movement in the heat of battle. The rocker was better in that respect but I found that aside from using the rudder to taxi I didn't really use it much in action.

The CH pedals are excellent and give you rudder and brake control but I still don't use much rudder in a fiight. Maybe I just don't know how to use rudder to best effect but sometimes I find myself in a dog fight and my feer are not even on the pedals.

I'd love to see someone do a write up on the use of rudder in AH air combat.

Widewing · « **Reply #43 on:** July 28, 2004, 08:51:57 PM »

Due to having my first set of pedals crap out, I learned to use the rocker. I find that if set up properly, and if you are practiced enough, the rocker is works as well as pedals.

I suggest that people go to the TA and learn how rudder usage can make a huge difference in maneuvering performance.

That Typhoon too sluggish on the ailerons at low speed? Rudder will triple the roll rate, albeit with some yaw and loss of speed.

In a turning match, and your fighter wants to snap-roll? You can reduce that tendency with some rudder.

Need an edge in a rolling scissors? That's right, use some rudder.

Twisty sticks? Too easy to induce yaw when you don't want or need it. Rockers are better, and for most people, pedals are best.

Regardless of which type you use, learn how rudder improves flight performance. Why? Because those that do use rudder have an edge.

My regards,

Widewing

Stang · « **Reply #44 on:** July 28, 2004, 09:06:43 PM »

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sometimes I find myself in a dog fight and my feer are not even on the pedals.

OMG dude, in a fight I almost use as much rudder as stick. It probably looks like I'm sliding like crazy through the sky when I do it lol. If I didn't have pedals I'd be about as good as Morph