Please HT, bring end to the dive bombing heavy bombers

[dedalos]

I think we all have seen movies of planes attacking boats in the pacific.  Make the ack as dence as that around a cv group and the problem should become smaller.

As far as suicides, last night I saw a 109 about 1k below me.  I lowered the nose and saw that he went into a dive over a field (turned out the field was not friendly, lol).  I am thinking, this dweeb is going to compress or rip his wings off so I dive behind him.  I close at about 800 and thinking that this dweeb is going to suicide, I beter get him fast.  Then the plane starts shaking, I pull back on the stick nothing happens.  The 109 puls out of the dive and I continue to the ground realising that I was in a p38

After the explosion the the text said, 'there goes another suicide dweeb'.  I guess I earned it, lol

[Easyscor]

Originally posted by hitech
I belive we are debating a none issue here, just how steap of a dive do you belive these bombers do?


HiTech

Most dives I’ve seen with formations appeared to be around 45 degrees on my front end.  Occasionally the lead will auger but often both drones pop in the pull-up / extend as the lead turns sharply to come back and strafe the field

It's pretty simple really, guys who spend hours in bombers hate it when some no skill dweeb can accomplish the same thing in 1/3rd the time.

What would happen if entire squads started using B-17s and Lancs to dive bomb fields and towns?  It’s quick with 25% fuel and far more effective then the endless jabo runs.  I have no doubt it would make a good diversion flight on squad night just for the irritation factor and I've been surprised we haven’t seen them used that way.  I just couldn't bring myself to suggest it on squad night.

[Zwerg]

Originally posted by Kweassa
[...]
1. Bombs will be dropped only when in a bombardier's position(F6)

 The bombardier takes total control of the buff in real life. A steady bomb run is always required, which is why the bombardier moves the plane carefully until the crosshairs come in target. Dropping bombs from external views should be stopped.
[...]

As a supplement I suggest an autolevel-autospeed function. As far as I understand it was the pilot's duty to keep the right speed during bomb run.
This means:
Speed during calibration is stored. As soon as you go back to the bombsight near target the speed is adjusted back. Once the speed is correct the bombardier has a "green light".

[LYNX]

I agree 100% with  Kweassa here.  People are gaming the game's game play.  

Should we want to ruin 1 guys b17 jabbo fun for pi$$ing off 30 + other players ($15).  30 other guys who play the GAME as it should be.

Perhaps htc should code in the following to let b17's jabbo.  The lead 17 should fly through a hanger while the drones pass above.  The lead plane then picks up smart bombs if he does it again he picks up invunerable to ack pass.  3rd he gets cloaking device 4th he gets....hold on a sec let me get a grip.  Forgot what Game we're playing

[phookat]

LOL Lynx.  

Yeah, I agree with Kweassa.

But no need to bring in questions of dweebery, the criteria is simpler.  If the physical modeling has limitations that allow buff-diving in the game when it wasn't physically possible in real life, then a flight-angle limitation should be imposed on bomb drops from internal bays.

The issue of suicide/death is orthogonal (and will probably never be solved).

[bustr]

Hey I miss Blood Dragons and crewing up a B17 to go punish fighters upping from a feild. Had some of my best fun in AW with my squad crewing a B17 for a suicide fighter killing run.

Don't any of you remember bouncing a buff all alone you and it just to find it was fully manned with bored fighter jocks at the guns? A big squad in AH could man all the guns on a buff run and not be bothered by fighters. Then you could do your level bombing with precision calibration and get complained about in threads like this asking to go back to the easy to kill buff days.

While you are at it ask HTC to let buffs kill runways to close feilds. At least it takes less than an hour to get over the IP. Think if you had to freeze your nads for 8 hours.

I can't wait until AH ver. 30,000.1.1 with the Holo-Deck support for that being there for real immersion. Ya know with the choice of real or simulated crashes and explosions.