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Offline mars01

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« on: August 30, 2004, 02:56:40 PM »
Is there anyway to keep physical sightings by team mates as info on the map.

I.E.  The cons are out of radar range, and so is one of your country men.  But as soon as your country man has a vis he would radio back the sighting etc.  This info would give position, number of bandits, alt, heading ect.

It might make it easier to find the action.  We could call these action reports.  You could go to the map and check out the current action report to see where to up etc.

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2004, 03:06:38 PM »
Neat idea, like a virtual grease pen or something?

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2004, 06:14:56 PM »
Makes sense to me Mars.  Considering that's how the Japanese fleets were discovered.  Question is how could we induce error on the part of the folks who discovered these enemies.  If they only see x amount of contacts and yet there is x amount more out of visual range.  This is a realistic scenario in my opinion.

One other thing is only folks within x amount of range should have knowledge of their existance.  Anyone outside of that distance would get it over a delay from channeling the information down.  

Neat thought though.

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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2004, 03:41:28 AM »
Unfortunately given the character of some players this system may be abused if individuals had access to the clipboard.


An option would be to show (as radar dots) those enemies  that have been tagged by a player.

eg a player out of tower radar range tags a series of enemy icons that are within his visual range......those tagged icons appear as dots and stay on the map for the refresh cycle of the radar or until re tagged............. this way NOE raids could be spotted and brought to the clipboard map as well.

This would create a real role for the "scout".

GV's would may to be filtered out some how.
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Re: Beyond Radar - Physical Reports
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2004, 07:20:02 AM »
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Originally posted by mars01
Is there anyway to keep physical sightings by team mates as info on the map.

I.E.  The cons are out of radar range, and so is one of your country men.  But as soon as your country man has a vis he would radio back the sighting etc.  This info would give position, number of bandits, alt, heading ect.

It might make it easier to find the action.  We could call these action reports.  You could go to the map and check out the current action report to see where to up etc.

Yes there is and it is already implamented into the game....WHAT YOU JUST SAID. Let your squadie call out the bandits on radar, take a grease pencil and mark info on your computer screen. Have a rag handy for updates. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2004, 07:26:13 AM »
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Unfortunately given the character of some players this system may be abused if individuals had access to the clipboard.


An option would be to show (as radar dots) those enemies  that have been tagged by a player.

eg a player out of tower radar range tags a series of enemy icons that are within his visual range......those tagged icons appear as dots and stay on the map for the refresh cycle of the radar or until re tagged............. this way NOE raids could be spotted and brought to the clipboard map as well.

This would create a real role for the "scout".

GV's would may to be filtered out some how.

You guys are missing the real point. Pilots did not have inflight radar/GPS systems. They had a map and a radio. The scouts reported activity to the fleet, the guys on the fleets marked what was told to them on a board. This info was then foworded to the pilots who wrote it down on PAPER! I understand what you guys are wanting but geesh, thats a bit much. The Inflight Radar/GPS is already an extream luxury.

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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2004, 09:50:52 AM »
Cmon Curtis,

If this were real life :rolleyes: then we would get the reports.  Any on the ground planning would have the full info.  You make it sound like this would turn the game into Lockon lol.

I am more concerned about looking at the info before I up to make sure there are people to fight, rather than in the cockpit but the info should be readily available in both places.

Why the heck are people so against making it easier to find the fights?

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2004, 07:24:56 PM »
Curtiss actually some birds did have a form of radar during the late part of WWII.  Some even used direction finding equipment for night flights.  

No one is asking for pin point directions of cons but relative information on the amount and area.  Especially when it comes to NOE raids or extremely large missions that aren't detected by dar but by an individual.  It could be a marker type with a basic number.  It could be turned on and off so it wouldn't clutter your map if you didn't give a crap about the system.  Very good idea for folks running CAPs.

This could also be an alternative system to when a countries HQ is down.  Because realistically HQs don't exist only as one main distribution point.  And they aren't the only way of transferring information to and from the frontlines or any other base for that matter.  Frankly having it so HQ disables all dar is rather gamey in itself.  Granted so is having a full spectrum dot dar system to an extent.  Many of these sightings would have been sent via radio to  groups in their respective AOR and placed on a tac map by the flight leaders and then the respective flights as a whole.
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