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Offline jEEZY

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« on: August 02, 2004, 10:13:40 AM »
In light of the political debate, a discussion topic.

A few myths have surfaced regarding "outsourcing" and international trade's responsibility for it.  Here are a couple of interesting statistics that tend to establish that outsourcing has a much more diverse and complicated source and effect on the overall US economy.

--the manufacturing sector's share of US GDP has been steadily falling, between 1970 and 2002 it fell from 24% to 14%, however, the manufactured goods trade deficit only rose about 4%--there seems to be an unaccounted for 6%.

--the effect of cheap foriegn labour has been exagerated, ad nausem, whereas a chinese manufacturing worker earns  $730 a year, thye only add $2900 of value, however, the average US manufacturing sector worker earns $29000, and adds over $81000 worth of value.  This is due to better capital, management, and education in the US manufacturing sector.  True the chinese will fix these problems--but then the salaries rise, offsetting the problem.

--The real costs of manufacturing goods has dropped more in the past decade than in anytime in history--meaning that more goods are avaiable at lower prices to the general public.  In plain english, that $25 DVD player would be about 10X that in a domestic protectionist economy.

--Trade lifts more people out of poverty than it lowers the economic status of others--meaning that overall international trade has proven to be pareto-superior economically in the US.  In plain english, more people are helped than are hurt by trade.

--A good example of non-trade economics are the health and education sector.  These sectors in the US economy have increased well above the inflation rate for the past 20 years--why? One reasoin is becuase they are non-fungable services, unable to be traded amonst a community of providers.  In plain english, without the ability to outsource these services, the industries are non-responsive to global cost pressures--meaning your college and doctor can charge whatever they want without fear of real and direct competition. All that a less globalised economy will do in the US will create the same non-reponsive prices in manufacturing and other fungable goods, made artificialy non-fungable by politically motivated trade barriers.

Just be on the look out for those who want to "protect" manufacturing jobs. What they are really doing is setting the US economy up to become non-responsive.  Protecting a manufacturing sector that requires less employees to produce more goods will only create unecessary costs (namely redundant workers), that will in the end erode the one advantage we do have--namely efficency and adaptability, which will lead to greater problems in the future.  One need only look at the US automotive sector of the 70s and 80s to see what protectionism does.

Sources upon request.

Offline oboe

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2004, 11:06:20 AM »
I think I remain unmoved by these arguments.     And technically I think you are refering to the "offshoring" segment of outsourcing, correct?

More people in India may indeed be lifted out of poverty than are pushed into it in the U.S. by offshoring former US jobs, but it doesn't help my US community.    Wages may rise in India, etc, but they are certain to fall in the US for the unfortunate individuals who make their living in the industries being targeted by offshoring, and produce a domino effect in local community's economies that may be very disruptive.     How is the Rust Belt doing these days?

Speaking of the US auto industry, does anyone know or remember how Japanese cars (Honda and Toyota for sure, maybe Nissan?) came to be built in the US?    Was that due to a unhindered free market operation or tariifs/trade policies or union pressure?   And has it been beneficial or harmful to US workers/consumers?   (Not a rhetorical question - looking for honest opinions here).

And, for countries with a higher standard of living than the US (Canada, Switzerland, Netherlands, etc), how do they deal with the reality of offshoring?    Do they have powerful unions to protect jobs, or protectionist government policies?     If so, how did they achieve their higher standard of living?

I suspect we haven't been really given the straight dope on how offshoring will eventually impact our economy.   It looks to me like the only class that will benefit is the upper class.    "Experts" keep telling us how free trade benefits everyone and will create more markets for our products and services, but what products and services will we have left to offer?   IMO economic theories are a dime a dozen.    And I suspect economists might be singing a different tune if it were their jobs being eliminated.

I don't intend to come across as a rabid opponent of offshoring--it's still in its infancy after all.    My gut tells me to be skeptical though.    In your example, I would rather have a job and save up the $250 for the DVD player than be unemployed and unable to afford even the $25 player.