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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2004, 03:25:17 PM »
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What happens here is the Kerry folks get one of their press buddies to release a an inaccurate story of Elliot recanting, Elliot then comes out and says he never did and ends up looking like a dumb arse stumbling over himself.

This damages Elliot's creditability and diffuses the impact his statements may have made in harming Kerry.

It is just damage control by the left to defend their boy. Its only news to those trads on the left that will run crying "He' s liar"....

So, this story is faked and Elliot never recanted? Bet ya think the moon landings were faked in Kansas, too.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2004, 03:26:08 PM »
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In the document, Elliott said, "I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back."
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Not that Im impressed with Kerry cause Im not.
But So what if he had shot him in the back.

War isnt a hollywood cowboy movie where you live by some sort of half baked code of honor that said you only shoot him if he was facing you.

Hell he's the enemy, you shoot him no matter what direction he's facing
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2004, 03:29:04 PM »
I don't have a problem with that either-you put the enemy down, esp when he is still a threat.
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2004, 03:29:43 PM »
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I suppose none of you noticed Bush has back away from the ad? You know something he does'nt?


Bush has more class than that

unlike skerry who is using moore-ons 911 movie as sounds for his campaign speeches and has not told moveon.org to retract its fangs...

skerry still had a great day though - the market down more than 300 points in 2 days

what's bad for America is good for skerry & eddie boy robin - Yeeehaaa!!
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2004, 03:32:12 PM »
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"bush was never near the add. how do you back away from something you were never close to in the first place."

http://www.intel-dump.com/


From this link:

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In an interview with the Associated Press, McCain called the ad "dishonest and dishonorable." Asked if the White House was behind it, McCain said: "I hope not, but I don't know. But I think the Bush campaign should specifically condemn the ad."

Soon after, White House spokesman Scott McClellan declined to do so and instead criticized the financing of the ad, saying the president "deplores all the unregulated soft-money activity." McClellan said the Bush campaign had nothing to do with the ad or the group behind it. "We have not and we will not question Kerry's service in Vietnam," he said. McClellan used the opportunity to call on Kerry to join Bush in demanding that all soft-money groups quit running ads. The overwhelming majority of such ads have targeted Bush, often harshly. Kerry campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said Kerry will not ask the groups to stop their advertising.


What the Bush administration did was condem all such adds, and challanging Kerry's camp to join the Bush camp in asking these soft-money political groups to stop running these kinds of attacks.  You'll notice Kerry's campaign declined.
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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2004, 03:38:34 PM »
I could have sworn he did that at the convention. This whole "soft money" thing needs to be stopped IMHO.
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2004, 03:59:59 PM »
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So, this story is faked and Elliot never recanted? Bet ya think the moon landings were faked in Kansas, too.:rolleyes:


Are you even following the story?

Sabre posted this in the other thread

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    quote:ANTI-KERRY VETS HANG TOUGH
    Fri Aug 06 2004 13:37:12 ET

    The following statement from Swift Boat Veterans for Truth concerns an article appearing in morning edition of the BOSTON GLOBE, written by GLOBE reporter and author of the official Kerry-Edwards campaign book, Mike Kranish.

    "Captain George Elliott describes an article appearing in today’s edition of the BOSTON GLOBE by Mike Kranish as extremely inaccurate and highly misstating his actual views. He reaffirms his statement in the current advertisement paid for by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, Captain Elliott reaffirms his affidavit in support of that advertisement, and he reaffirms his request that the ad be played.

    “Additional documentation will follow.

    "The article by Mr. Kranish is particularly surprising given page 102 of Mr. Kranish’s own book quoting John Kerry as acknowledging that he killed a single, wounded, fleeing Viet Cong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around.

    "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has more than 250 supporters who are revealing first hand, eyewitness accounts of numerous incidents concerning John Kerry’s military service record. The organization will continue to discuss much of what John Kerry has reported as fact concerning his four-month tour of duty in Vietnam."

Both the Boston.com report and the Drudge article provide quotes from Captain Elliot. Either both are accurate, in which case Elliot needs to see a neurologist, or one of them miss-quotes him. Hopefully, Captain Elliot will come on one of the major news shows and sets the record straight.


So your stupid moon comment is just that.

There are different accounts of what Eliot said. Both by biased sources. Dredge and Michael Kranish.

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This article was written by Michael Kranish.

Michael Kranish is the same guy who wrote Kerry's biography and who he himself wrote on page 102 that Kerry admitted shooting a young, wounded VC in the back for fear the man might turn around.

Michael Kranish is also the man writing the campaign program book, "Kerry/ Edwards".

Eliiot has said today he recants nothing and he was terribly misrepresented in this article and the article is extremely misleading.

Eliot said he stands firmly by what he said in the commerical.


So how about you spare me your liberal  wit and tell the whole story.
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2004, 04:09:38 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2004, 04:35:28 PM »
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I don't see the thread, sorry.
 
I shortened it to Neo's for ya. What more do ya want?;)


You should also note that Reuters simply picked this up from the Boston paper (as usual, without check to see if it was even factual), and that the guy who wrote the article is not only covering the Kerry/Edwards campaign, but he's also being paid to write part of the campaign book for Kerry/Edwards. :eek:

Now THAT is real objective journalism at its best.:rolleyes:

Oh, and Elliott is now quoted as saying that the article in question is full of misquotes, and that he stands by what is in the ad that has the left trying desperately to retrieve their panties from deep in their crotch, and I might add has them sending threatening letters from their lawyers to ever television station that might even consider airing the ad. :eek:


How incredibly surprised everyone must be to know that the DNC is threatening to sue people already, and Kerry hasn't even lost, yet.:rofl
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2004, 04:45:58 PM »
Yawn...

At age 27

Kerry testifies before senate, fighting for a cause he believes in.

Bush........? Looking for a line that is worthy of his nose and 3 years away from a drunk driving arrest.

its all just spin people! I wonder how many times Nixon attacked Kennedy's service record? Or Kennedy attacked Nixon's.
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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2004, 04:57:51 PM »
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So, this story is faked and Elliot never recanted?


Yep.


A little Grey Poupon w/ your crow?   Or are you too immature to admit when you've erred?
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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2004, 05:18:28 PM »
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So, this story is faked and Elliot never recanted? Bet ya think the moon landings were faked in Kansas, too.:rolleyes:


Whoops! :)

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"Captain George Elliott describes an article appearing in today’s edition of the Boston Globe by Mike Kranish as extremely inaccurate and highly misstating his actual views. He reaffirms his statement in the current advertisement paid for by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, Captain Elliott reaffirms his affidavit [see below] in support of that advertisement, and he reaffirms his request that the ad be played.

“Additional documentation will follow. “The article by Mr. Kranish is particularly surprising given page 102 of Mr. Kranish’s own book quoting John Kerry as acknowledging that he killed a single, wounded, fleeing Viet Cong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around.



it should also be noted that it appears that the guy who ran the story in the Globe has/had been paid by the Kerry campaign to write the official campaign book, in addition to the Kerry biography earlier:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1586483145/qid=1091822115/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-8443872-2245435?v=glance&s=books

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1586482734/qid=1091822205/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-8443872-2245435?v=glance&s=books

Like I said in the other thread, DAMAGE CONTROL!
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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2004, 05:33:17 PM »
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Yawn...

At age 27

Kerry testifies before senate, fighting for a cause he believes in.

Bush........? Looking for a line that is worthy of his nose and 3 years away from a drunk driving arrest.

its all just spin people! I wonder how many times Nixon attacked Kennedy's service record? Or Kennedy attacked Nixon's.


kerry blatantly lies to senate. he says he saw things and did things that were total fabrications.
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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2004, 06:17:50 PM »
I said a CREDIBLE link. Drudge, NewsMax, Nation Enquirer, ect are not CREDIBLE. Show me a USA Today or major news service. I don't use MoveOn links to make my points.
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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2004, 06:25:25 PM »
Your source is  Mr. Kranish. Hardly any more credible then the National Enquirer or Drudge.
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