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Offline mechanic

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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2004, 02:43:13 PM »
i think there are various different grades of the HO.

the two main types are:

1: two planes fly at each other from a large distance and keep flying straight at each other untill the HO is unavoidable.

outcome:

both planes damaged or possibly dead due to ramming.

conclusion:

this type of HO is skilless and avoidable and BORING.



2: two planes meet head on in a turn fight and are imediately in a HO situation due to close proximity and unavoidable manouvers.


outcome:
same as above but more importance is put on reaction time, accuracy, and pilot error.
both pilots have about 2 seconds to decide to HO, shoot striaght, and avoid the other plane.

conclusion:

this type of HO is much less avoidable and part of the unpredictable nature of combat flying.


personaly i try to avoid all HO.

back when i was a two week newbie (10 months ago or so) i would simply HO because it was all i could gain as far as a gun solution went.

HOs suck , but they are a valid tactic.

deal with it and re-plane with honour.


just my deux centimes

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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2004, 02:46:31 PM »
Are collisions turned back on yet?
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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2004, 02:52:10 PM »
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Are collisions turned back on yet?



they got turned off!!!!???


i havnt played for two months from CPU issues.


THEY TURNED COLLISIONS OFF?????

i weas hoping they would turn friendly collisions on, not make the game LESS realistic.
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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2004, 03:01:42 PM »
Sure seems like it. I haven't died from a collision since the last patch and I coulda swore I've flown through an enemy wing or two. No collisions is the only argument I have against HOs.
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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2004, 03:06:40 PM »
no friendly collisions and killshooter i can deal with.

but no collisions atall?

how else am i supposed to take out that last buff when im bingo ammo?

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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2004, 03:08:33 PM »
Maybe it's just me. I'd have figured if others had noticed then someone woulda posted or contacted HTC by now. I didn't bother. I guess I ought to. No collision post coming.
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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2004, 03:15:08 PM »
Mechanic

# 2 is NOT a HO at all.

Its a forward quarter shot in the middle of a turn fight or ACM.
Lord I wish everyone would just get that straight..

Bore in coalt from 5k guns blazing from 1.2k out with nary a thought of manuver or ACM, THAT is a Head On.

And yes it DOES take 2 to do it. Smart pilots dive below his nose, barrel roll, kick rudder, setup seperation for lead turn  or  SOMETHING to spoil his shot while prepareing to reverse & kill him. While at the same time making yourself a hard target.

Of course if your packing 4x20 mm or even a 37mm why avoid? Kill em and be done with it. Sit back & wait for the whine.
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« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2004, 03:36:37 PM »
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Of course if your packing 4x20 mm or even a 37mm why avoid? Kill em and be done with it. Sit back & wait for the whine.
 :)



BINGO.. That right there is what I was trying to say last night, except that my buzz made me type it a little differently :D

I don't go around looking for HO, but if someone wants to try the front end of my 190-A8 on for size, I'll happily give him a 4x 20mm 2x13mm reason to think about a different method next time.  Most planes don't survive that firestorm, and the 190 is a relatively small target..  More often than not I'll go home with little or no damage and 1 more kill on my scorecard.
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« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2004, 04:12:35 PM »
I will do anything and everything in my flying ability to score a kill. For each second you're up in the air amongst my wingmates, you're a threat. Call it weenie but remember, who is still flying?
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« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2004, 04:36:49 PM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
HO's are stupid gamey nonsense. There isnt one instance of HO ever recorded in air combat history, real combat and not games..

I wish you HO dweebs would stop being such children and learn to fight like real men! Using ACM!!!

DWEEBS! :mad:




 Bet chuck Yeager would bare to differ. And many many recorded fights using ho  including 1 pilot who had his mechinac set plane up to crab. So enmey didn't know he was ho'ing...
« Last Edit: August 07, 2004, 04:41:46 PM by rod367th »
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« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2004, 04:45:09 PM »
Argh what is this? Where is the outrage?  :D
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« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2004, 04:51:32 PM »
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Though I probably would have related Danny Cunningham's story, as well, if ya hadn't beat me to it.


Yeah, I knew I had to be quick to beat you to that story. :)
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« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2004, 05:53:27 PM »
yeah...
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2004, 06:10:37 PM »
BTW

The real world pilots didnt need to deal with this

You better read it before your next ONLINE HO death whine :rolleyes:
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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2004, 06:46:32 PM »
I'm up for a HO anytime, just make sure you back up what your first shot puts out. Otherwise you be a dead man. :lol
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