Author Topic: Kerry's testimony (Read 867 times)

Martlet · « **Reply #15 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:50:48 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Ahh ... there you see. I agree with him completely. Those were war crimes, and the US forces did commit numerous war crimes in Vietnam, probably on a daily basis.

Now, was he wrong in coming forward and saying this?

Does being an admitted war criminal make you qualified to be POTUS?

Martlet · « **Reply #16 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:56:04 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Unless there is a US law against that I can't see why not. Kerry is protected by the US government from international percecution just like all the other US war crimminals.

You'd vote for an admitted war criminal? You'd vote for a man that admittedly intentionally gunned down civilians and burned their villages?

Martlet · « **Reply #17 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:03:51 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
A man who was ordered to do so, and then came forward to let the world know what was going on, and took an active part in trying to stop the war he felt was unjustified and inhumane. Yes, I would vote for such a man (if I had the vote).

Was he wrong in coming forward and saying what was going on?

Of course he wasn't. If that's what he saw, he's OBLIGATED to present it. Further, he's obligated as an officer to not only refuse to participate, but to stop the activities. He shouldn't be in office, he should be in jail.

A man without the intestinal fortitude to refuse orders to gun down civilians and torch their villages has no business in the White House.

It's nice to expose your way of thinking, though.

Nash · « **Reply #18 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:07:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
He shouldn't be in office, he should be in jail.

A man without the intestinal fortitude to refuse orders to gun down civilians and torch their villages has no business in the White House.

Next thing ya know, Martlet will be calling Vietnam vets "baby killers" and spitting on his TV whenever they appear on it.

What a beautiful twist...

Amazing how Rove and a few bucks can spin someone's head so completely around.

Martlet · « **Reply #19 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:08:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Next thing ya know, Martlet will be calling Vietnam vets "baby killers" and spitting on his TV whenever they appear on it.

What a beautiful twist...

Amazing how Rove and a few bucks can spin someone's head so completely around.

Why would I do that? Are you saying Kerry ISN'T an admitted war criminal?

Nash · « **Reply #20 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:09:34 PM »

Yeah, they all are... Evil people.... lock 'em up.

hilarious.

What a can of worms this is proving to be...

Martlet · « **Reply #21 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:11:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Yeah, they all are... Evil people.... lock 'em up.

hilarious.

What a can of worms this is proving to be...

Nice dodge.

Translation: Martlet is absolutely correct. It gets my panties in a bunch, but there is absolutely no way I can refute it. I'll just post gibberish instead.

Martlet · « **Reply #22 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:15:06 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Now where exactly in this quote do you see him admitting to deliberately "gunning down" civilians? IIRC the people were forcibly relocated to strongholds or "hamlets" and their villages burned to deny their use by the enemy. Scorched earth.

Kerry said he violated the Geneva Convention and the laws of warfare.

Ask him the details, not me.

Martlet · « **Reply #23 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:15:44 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Was he wrong in coming forward and saying what was going on?

How many times are you going to ask the same question?

Nash · « **Reply #24 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:16:52 PM »

IMHO...

Let the people whose responsibility it is to award the medals, award the medals. Or not, as they see fit.

Everyone else should just STFU.

Martlet · « **Reply #25 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:31:42 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Until you answer it. Was he wrong in coming forward and saying what was going on?

I answered that several responses ago. You should read my reply and respond, not just slap down the next moveon.org talking point on your list.

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You claimed he had admitted to "gunning down civilians". I don't see that he has admitted to that.

My mistake. I should have left it at the war crimes he admitted to committing, rather than expand upon it. The end result is the same, only you wouldn't be able to pick at technicalities to dodge the argument.

Martlet · « **Reply #26 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:41:12 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
I would rather vote for a repenting unconvinced war criminal that tried to stop a war, than voting for an unrepentant war criminal that started an illegal war.

Really? What war crimes has Bush been convicted of? What illegal war was he convicted of starting?

Martlet · « **Reply #27 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:43:15 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
What war crimes has Kerry been convicted of?

Dance Dance Dance.

None. He admitted to them, though.

You didn't answer my questions, though.

Martlet · « **Reply #28 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:59:01 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
IMHO Bush is an unrepentant unconvicted war criminal.

Ahhh, so it's your opinion.

or garbage.

Same thing.

anonymous · « **Reply #29 on:** August 09, 2004, 04:38:23 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
What war crimes has Kerry been convicted of?

convicted of none. but he admitted to commiting them in us senate hearing. so he is either war criminal or liar. take your pick. you really need better understanding of political climate in us during war in vn and antiamerican movement that hid itself in antiwar movement i think.