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Offline phookat

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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2004, 11:22:10 AM »
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well i liked night bacuase without the icons lancs were invisible


In what way is that a good thing?

Here's a thought.  Instead of night, let's have an hour in the MA where all Lancs are invisible.

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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2004, 11:24:25 AM »
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I tried to help those that just couldn't see at all.  Either I was terrible at explaining how to set Gamma or folk were just to Piggin Lazy or Dumb to fix it.  Now everyone has a GAMMA slider in settup / Video.   It ain't bleedin Rocket science.


What's the point of "night" if you're just gonna turn up your gamma anyway?

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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2004, 11:25:05 AM »
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Originally posted by Kweassa
No nights please.

People have this weird fantasies about gaming fun that somehow exotic, abnormal environmental conditions will add to realism and fun.

I play IL2/FB/AEP on a normal basis and can't believe the frustration I have to go through to find a decent gaming room. Dusk, dawn, night, poor visibility, rainstorms, super fog, super ack fire, etc etc....

But the bare truth is 90% of normal operations were literally under "normal" conditions - daylight, acceptable visibility, good weather.

Harsh weather, storm, extreme fog, night time and etc. abnormal environmental conditions were reasons to cancel flight operations. Night time was a theater for specialized planes operating in pitch-black darkness equipped with special gadgets and gizmos.

Sometimes(like maybe once a month in my case), fighting in night time or storm fronts can be fun, but having it as a regular part of arena gameplay just simply cuts down my playtime significantly.
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Amen brother! <>

Most that want night back are Bomber jocks who want a 'free-pass' to their targets where they have a much less chance of getting their arse shot off by fighters. In that sense they are supported by WW2 reality. The British operated their bomber fleet entirely at night after the US entered the war for that very reason. Their bombers lacked the defensive weaponry and long-range escort to bomb during daylight when they were apt to be intercepted by fighters.

So, if you are a bomber jock night is great, for everyone else it's a time to go play another game or screw with your gamma settings and shorten the life of your monitor.

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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2004, 12:12:01 PM »
Zazen I think you and Kwessa are right 90 percent of the time (to pull that stat out of my prettythang).

I can only speak for myself on this -- but it's the challenge of the abnormal in contrast to the normal that is fun in this game.1 hour of night out of 23 is not entirely unreasonable to ask for.

Everyone here likes this game because we don't like "normal" dumb AI's all the time we want the CHALLENGE of matching our skills against other human opponents. Those who aren't look to use the "unmentionable c-word that gets threads locked". Or turn their gamma up etc. I'm not interested in them, they aren't who i live to fly against.

All I'm asking for is night where I can try my hand at night interception, at night time bombing raids, or the closest aproximation to it. If its not perfect - oh well - it's a simulation. But no night at all. That's sad. Not a deal breaker but still would be nice.

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« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2004, 12:21:18 PM »
When AH has search lights then we'll talk.
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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2004, 12:26:06 PM »
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My proposed solution to the Rook Horde:

Bring the night back to the MA.

That way us bish not only can't see the Rook Raids on Dar, But we can pretend we don't see them period.

:D

It might also force some of the Rooks off for about 2 hours a day.


Just put in the huge fog/haze thing that was all over the UK in the first part of BoB Frame 2.  You cant see anything more than 2K away from you and can barely see the ground above 10K!

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« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2004, 12:32:13 PM »
Unfortuneately I don't believe night will ever return to the MA, it spoils the furballers little excursions. They whined loud enough it was removed, just like the fuel change etc etc etc.
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« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2004, 01:41:10 PM »
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Because our planes are designed to fly in the daytime, locating targets visually.
you ever heard of german day fighters that flew at night?

i forget how to spell it but something like Wild seaou or something.
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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2004, 01:53:07 PM »
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Originally posted by Adogg
My proposed solution to the Rook Horde:

Bring the night back to the MA.

That way us bish not only can't see the Rook Raids on Dar, But we can pretend we don't see them period.

:D

It might also force some of the Rooks off for about 2 hours a day.



This is actually 2 whines in one.  Boohoo there are too many rooks, and Booohoo they like to fly together.

Instead of putting all this effort into lobbying people on the BBS, why not get about 10-15 of your friends together and start rampaging bases away from the 2 furballs going on at that time.  Believe it or not you can do a lot of damage this way.  

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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2004, 02:04:30 PM »
Ummm howitzer let me help you with that hook in your mouth ...read it again it wasn't a whine... I was actually just offering a bullchit solution (the lobbying was a happy coincidence.) :D It was a response to all the whining babies who biatched about side imbalance.

Sorry bud, barking up the wrong tree.

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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2004, 02:26:28 PM »
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Ummm howitzer let me help you with that hook in your mouth ...read it again it wasn't a whine... I was actually just offering a bullchit solution (the lobbying was a happy coincidence.) :D It was a response to all the whining babies who biatched about side imbalance.

Sorry bud, barking up the wrong tree.


You are probably right.. I didn't read all the posts, I suppose we are on the same side, tired of hearing all this BS about night time and imbalance on teams...  just got the better of me.  If you know anyone who feels the way I chastized (and without justification) you for, pass my feelings on please  :D

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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2004, 05:33:21 PM »
no prob.

Hey I fly Bish I'm used to taking it up the prettythang by now :D

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« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2004, 05:37:51 PM »
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Unfortuneately I don't believe night will ever return to the MA, it spoils the furballers little excursions. They whined loud enough it was removed, just like the fuel change etc etc etc.


Poor whining stratters. :D

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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2004, 05:39:31 PM »
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you ever heard of german day fighters that flew at night?

i forget how to spell it but something like Wild seaou or something.


Really.  What did they do if they couldn't see.  Searchlights?  We don't have any.

I can see how searchlights would be cool, especially if they could be player controlled.