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Offline Nash

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« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2004, 06:42:02 PM »
Yup.... divide and conquer.... Well said Toad.
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« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2004, 06:43:43 PM »
Hey, Nash......... it's FRIDAY NIGHT!

You going with a dry or wet fly tonight?










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« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2004, 06:49:29 PM »
Gonna watch for a bit... But chances are I'll go with a dry...

If the lunkers aint hitting I'll tie on an emerger and drag her deep. :D

Hey, it's Friday night and it keeps me off the streets. Besides, it's the last night before holidays.... so you won't have Nash to kick around anymore, and I am not a crook.

What do Toads like to chew on, anyways?
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« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2004, 06:51:49 PM »
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What do Toads like to chew on, anyways?


Tie on a good slab of smoked brisket or a smoky BBQ Baby Back rib and slow drift it past me in a deep riffle of pale ale. I'll hit it every time.

Enjoy the weekend bud!
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« Reply #64 on: August 13, 2004, 07:30:54 PM »
Toad
I'd save the gas if I were you ...

skerry scares me, not just his looks either .. this country would look weak as a liberal canadian if he won and that would embolden the cheekboness who live to hate us

I am doing everything in my power to make sure that does not happen

you may want to reconsider before you throw your vote away
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« Reply #65 on: August 13, 2004, 07:44:36 PM »
Hey Eagler....

Congratulations! Florida has swung semi-solidly into the Kerry column! I didn't think this would happen, to be honest. This may change, but for now I give a hearty salute to you and your people.



(holy - looks like Kerry snagged Ohio as well... That's huge... )
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« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2004, 08:06:10 PM »
TOAD.....little misunderstanding...

  Vietnam ,go/no go is not my personal point.I am well informed  his record in the senate. I do not fault anyone on vietnam except those that went to Canada.

   Simply put I would not vote for Kerry because of his record.I have always been for the under dog so to speak,when people started comparing bush to hitler and stalin,that went over the top for me and I started paying attention and reading.

I paid attention to kerry and vietnam because I knew for a fact he wasnt in cambodia in 68. You ever hear a swift boat run much less 3 or 4 of them? At that time cambodia was theirs, all theirs . And if he tried to go into cambodia in 68 he would not be here .I promise you not one of those swiftys would have gotten a half mile inside cambodia.

 So again for personal reasons I paid attention.I heard his whole testamony before congress, read what the good general giap said about him.
  My conclusion,Oh boy did he lie about cambodia,that one I know, and I believe he lied about 1 purple heart,dont care about the rest. After hearing his talk before congress and reading about him and now he loves the military?

 You said you were in the military in 73, I hope it was a good experiance for you,yet you must remember johnson,mcnamara..55000 dead for nothing, and a couple of those my friends, and 1 badly wounded cousin, and another wounded, not as bad, but it was the million dollar wound.

  Kerry is worse then them,and you are going to vote for nader??.

Whatever bush is, until just lately, he let the military fight,with the weapons we have. I dont care about the economy or anything else right now,but it looks like America is going to put a lieing fool in as cic in the middle of a war, a man with no character at all. God have pity on our armed forces, while we sit here on our tulips safe. Been there done that.
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« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2004, 08:25:52 PM »
Guess we just have a different opinion on "wasted vote".

I think voting for either Kerry or Bush is a waste.

What we need is CHANGE. You won't get that with either the Dem or the Rep.

Count on it.

In any event, those of you seeking to help defeat Kerry would be far more effective if you focused on his Senate career rather than the VietNam aspect. His "short tour", his "Winter Soldier adventures" and the harping on his "Purple Scratches" just don't resonate with this electorate. In fact, all that does is make him a "victim" to a lot of folks, just like poor Bill was victimized when he lied to all our faces.

Engage on his record. It's where he's vulnerable and where you at least look serious.
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« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2004, 08:50:48 PM »
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I think voting for either Kerry or Bush is a waste.



And voting for anyone else is pointless. Best not to vote..
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« Reply #69 on: August 13, 2004, 08:57:51 PM »
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And voting for anyone else is pointless. Best not to vote..


Disagree....

Not voting (yet being quite politically aware) leads to yet another series of boring and misleading stories about the "apathetic population" that bombards us every 4 years.

If enough of you vote for something else - *anything* else - the story would then become one of a "nation-wide sense of thirst"...

And being good capitalists, you must know that where there is a demand....
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« Reply #70 on: August 13, 2004, 08:59:11 PM »
In other words, you're too lazy to even TRY to change things. You don't like Bush or Kerry? Won't vote for either one? Then TELL them party bosses....... go vote for someone else.

How tough is it to go to the polls?

Tough as freezing at Valley Forge, ya think?

Tough as climbing Marye's Heights maybe?
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« Reply #71 on: August 13, 2004, 08:59:18 PM »
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Not voting (yet being quite politically aware) leads to yet another series of boring and misleading stories about the "apathetic population" that bombards us every 4 years.
 


As if anyone cares....:rolleyes:
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« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2004, 09:00:53 PM »
Well, I have no will to start a new political movement at this time, so I will content myself with just not voting...

Basically, for now, I have given up trying to change other people...

and no it isnt tough to go to that little booth and vote, but why? My vote means nothing unless there are millions of other identical votes. Which means a serious political movement. With that in mind, plese see above.
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« Reply #73 on: August 13, 2004, 09:01:21 PM »
I just think it's misleading, Holden. Who cares if anyone cares.

Grun isn't some slouch who can't be arsed to vote. But he sure enough will be categorized as such.
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« Reply #74 on: August 13, 2004, 09:20:02 PM »
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and no it isnt tough to go to that little booth and vote, but why? My vote means nothing unless there are millions of other identical votes. Which means a serious political movement. With that in mind, plese see above.


1. There are a few other races on the ballot besides the Presidency. You going to give Boxer a free pass? What about local issues/candidates?

2. Your implication is that your vote means nothing unless "your side" wins; you want to be voting with millions of other identical votes. What a cop-out. You DID watch all the recounts of the 2002 Florida results right? It came down to a few hundred ballots. Anyway, if you go vote for either Bush or Kerry, you'll be voting with "millions of other identical votes"; not much of a criteria is it? Here's an idea....... go vote for what you think is right. Heck, I give you permission to write me in for Prez.  ;)

3. Again, good people paid in blood to grant you this right and obligation. Do them the honor of acknowledging their sacrifice.
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