Author Topic: Ok Knights...We want to help.... (Read 1025 times)

Muddie · « **Reply #15 on:** August 13, 2004, 01:06:50 PM »

I used to be the VM guy here (was the third site in the U.S. to install and run VM/XA SF). You just gotta love an operating system who's idea of graceful error recovery is 'I think I might have a problem, I'll just autoreboot'. And I ain't kidding about that either. It's fine for the VM guys, but really sucks for the production guests. Having said that, it was a nice operating system to work with and really nice for an academic envrionment. Just wasn't robust enough for what we needed.

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Originally posted by SlapShot
Real men run the old iron (IBM 360/370 architecture) with tri-leads and chillers. Both would fill up the 1st floor of your house.

This Zblahblah stuff is too UBER. Only dweebs run those types of mainframes and only NERDS run MVS ... VM/CMS is where its at ... interactive computing.

Muddie · « **Reply #16 on:** August 13, 2004, 01:08:35 PM »

Oh btw, we prefer to be called Geeks. UberGeeks on a really good day, like putting up the latest Z/OS.

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Originally posted by SlapShot
Real men run the old iron (IBM 360/370 architecture) with tri-leads and chillers. Both would fill up the 1st floor of your house.

This Zblahblah stuff is too UBER. Only dweebs run those types of mainframes and only NERDS run MVS ... VM/CMS is where its at ... interactive computing.

Muddie · « **Reply #17 on:** August 13, 2004, 01:10:11 PM »

and COLD COLD COLD machine rooms.

Now I can stand on the perforated panels for an hour at a time, no problemo.

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Originally posted by RedTop
MVS ran on a 3090 when i first came to work here. VM was on a 3081. Profs? remember Profs?

We thought we were dashiznit when we got 1 server.

NOW...300 plus. Virual servers..HUGE amounts of DASD...More fiber optic cables than you can shake a stick at.

20 tape drives that use the new E Tapes. like 20 gig or something like that.

Use to have CTC and Control units...Those old Bus and Tag Cables...looked like a million paounds of spaghetti under the floor.

LOLOL...those were the days

Muddie · « **Reply #18 on:** August 13, 2004, 01:12:07 PM »

What's your involvement? The supply of us (Mainframe systems guys) is getting kinda thin, so we oughta be able to find you something somewhere.

Email me offline and I'll start asking around.

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Originally posted by jamusta
We run ES9000 with MVS/ESA. I remember the huge 4381's... We also had an Amdahl that took up the whole room. Even had its own chrome radiator...

I am trying to leave the government contracting business but no one is looking for a washed up mainframe system support specialist.

RedTop · « **Reply #19 on:** August 13, 2004, 04:26:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Muddie
and COLD COLD COLD machine rooms.

Now I can stand on the perforated panels for an hour at a time, no problemo.

Im in a 11000 square foot computer room...and IT AINT WARM. We have ABOUT 35 racks of servers and 6 AC units inside here...Its friggin cold. I am prolly the only guy in Texas that wears a sweatshirt in the MIDDLE OF SUMMER when its a 100 + outside.

Puck · « **Reply #20 on:** August 13, 2004, 05:52:34 PM »

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Originally posted by 68DevilM
hell i need all the help i can, cant hit a fricken thing in those turrets:lol

All ya gotta do is ask. I'm alwas up for using a buff formation as bait...er...escorting my big friends...

I particularly like the P-51Ds and LgAy-7s who don't bother looking back when they attack bombers...those things are candy now with their ENY in the basement.

Puck · « **Reply #21 on:** August 13, 2004, 05:54:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Muddie
Oh btw, we prefer to be called Geeks. UberGeeks on a really good day, like putting up the latest Z/OS.

I've been annointed BOFH at my last three positions. A title I wear with pride. Even as a manager I still find time to fsck the /usr once in a while.

Puck · « **Reply #22 on:** August 13, 2004, 06:01:47 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot

This Zblahblah stuff is too UBER. Only dweebs run those types of mainframes and only NERDS run MVS ... VM/CMS is where its at ... interactive computing.

Bastage. I've paid good money to therapists to forget all about CMS and you have to bring it up again.

VMS...THAT was a manly OS. Virtual processor reading from a virtual disk to load a virtual program and create a virtual process on a virtual machine. CIO comes in and wonders why the machine room is COMPLETELY EMPTY. Apparently he didn't get virtual computing.

We held a raffle when we pushed the last 11/780 off the loading dock. The winner got to do the final push. Three foot drop probably exceeded the maximum G rating for the chassis. Equipment room dropped 10 degrees for every one we shut off. I still have a few of the 14" platters on my wall, along with some 8" platters, 8" floppy disks (hard sector, of course) and various other storage media and implements. The slide rule really gets the new people now days, particularly when you tell them THAT is what we used to put people on the moon.

RvrndMax · « **Reply #23 on:** August 13, 2004, 07:04:39 PM »

Hijack successful ....

Redtop ... Bombers and attack craft are just magnets for the NME . follow one outta the barn and you'll get yer quota and you'll increase his survivability to the target . good fer him, good fer you , good for the Knights ... i don't know how many times i've lifted an A-20 with fighters all around , only to arrive alone trying to combine evasives with some sort of impromptu drop profile . 3-4 spit V's would be a welcome sight . i'll look for ya .

As fer the server discussion , colossus.net just shut the doors on their tech shop .. anyone need an extra hardware monkey ?

Reverend Max
13th SAS - Chaplain