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Offline Gunslinger

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Question regarding looters in Charley's aftermath
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2004, 07:32:57 PM »
OK here's a good question/scenerio for ya'll.


Let say a looter is unarmed and stealing property.

Lets say that property just happens to be supplies that are in extreme short supply like Gasoline, food ect.

Now if its winter time or I have a kid that needs that fuel to run the generator for life support ect.  Or that food is what's keeping my family alive and we were told not to expect more anytime soon.

Even though my life is not in direct danger the actions of a thief may in fact cause one of thier deaths or serious harm.

Would this genuinly warrent shooting of a looter?

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2004, 07:37:49 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2004, 07:39:04 PM »
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Let say a looter is unarmed and stealing property.

Lets say that property just happens to be supplies that are in extreme short supply like Gasoline, food ect.

Now if its winter time or I have a kid that needs that fuel to run the generator for life support ect. Or that food is what's keeping my family alive and we were told not to expect more anytime soon.

Even though my life is not in direct danger the actions of a thief may in fact cause one of thier deaths or serious harm.

Would this genuinly warrent shooting of a looter?


Well you can try to take it back peacefully or in a more non peacefull way before you kill the dude.

But hey, in a last resort... its either he and his family or yours that survives.

You cant blame him for trying either so i guess all bets are off.
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Re: Question regarding looters in Charley's aftermath
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2004, 07:40:29 PM »
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Do you think that shooting a looter is using excessive force?


yes :)

unless he was stealing my gf or baby
« Last Edit: August 16, 2004, 07:42:40 PM by Nilsen »

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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2004, 08:14:25 PM »
Just tell authorities the looter entered your home and you feared for your life.  When your house is spread out over the whole block, "he entered my home" takes on a new meaning.

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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2004, 08:16:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Just tell authorities the looter entered your home and you feared for your life.  When your house is spread out over the whole block, "he entered my home" takes on a new meaning.


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Question regarding looters in Charley's aftermath
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2004, 08:18:55 PM »
People are snapping in Punta gorda:
It was 90+ degrees today with 95+% humidity
They lost their homes, they have little food and water, they havent had a shower in days, a shower at 95% humidity doesn't help anyway...
When this guy says he may shoot someeone I would believe him... And he may walk because of all the above...

But I could be wrong?!
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Re: Question regarding looters in Charley's aftermath
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2004, 08:22:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Do you think that shooting a looter is using excessive force?


Its murder. So I guess the question should be is it ok to murder someone.

I was in keywest when I was 17(streethippie runaway)
we heard about Eloise hittin panamacity
we went there. The first night there we loaded our hotel up with cases 20 or 30  of beer   we found liquer too a whole cabinetful
next day we found stores knocked over and we loaded cases of canned goods into the hotel room
we worked there4 months, roofing constrution, we found clothes, money in cash registers, reefer....  u name it.
I look back and yes it was looting, not from folks homes just up and down the beachs from stores bars clothing outlets...

Glad I didnt get shot.

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Re: Re: Question regarding looters in Charley's aftermath
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2004, 08:49:56 PM »
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we worked there4 months, roofing constrution, we found clothes, money in cash registers, reefer....  u name it.
I look back and yes it was looting, not from folks homes just up and down the beachs from stores bars clothing outlets...

Glad I didnt get shot.

You ever put you bellybutton on the line and own a business? You ever spend your last $100 for inventory?

I have!

Plus, I would not hesitate to shoot your bellybutton stealing my last chance for my economic survival. The thin blue line was absent and you’re an example why bullets shouldn’t be taxed.

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Re: Re: Re: Question regarding looters in Charley's aftermath
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2004, 08:51:37 PM »
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You ever put you bellybutton on the line and own a business? You ever spend your last $100 for inventory?

I have!

Plus, I would not hesitate to shoot your bellybutton stealing my last chance for my economic survival. The thin blue line was absent and you’re an example why bullets shouldn’t be taxed.


I would shoot him for stealing the reefer!
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Re: Re: Re: Question regarding looters in Charley's aftermath
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2004, 09:11:38 PM »
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Originally posted by Ozark
You ever put you bellybutton on the line and own a business? You ever spend your last $100 for inventory?

I have!

Plus, I would not hesitate to shoot your bellybutton stealing my last chance for my economic survival. The thin blue line was absent and you’re an example why bullets shouldn’t be taxed.


the stuff was sling up and down the beach dood and yes I hav ebeen in business for 30 years now. If you would shoot a teenage boy for what I done you need to question your morals
And if you dont have insurance u dont know squat bout business

And If you could shoot a teenager for picking up stuff of the bech U aint much of a man. Get a grip.

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Question regarding looters in Charley's aftermath
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2004, 09:14:13 PM »
I wouldn't shoot to kill, but I'd shoot them so they won't forget it..

Kneecap, Leg, Arm, etc.
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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2004, 09:18:55 PM »
Get a grip?

You take item that don't belong to you and justify it?
Your just a lowlife criminal!

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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2004, 09:23:02 PM »
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Originally posted by Hawklore
I wouldn't shoot to kill, but I'd shoot them so they won't forget it..

Kneecap, Leg, Arm, etc.


People place to much value on material possesions and not enough value on human life, its the way of the perverted world we live in, how would you feel if you missed and killed the person hawklore? would you just justify it in your mind as he had it coming or would you carry the scar of murdering a fellow human the rest of your life? You wont know till you face that situation and I pray you never have to. You are young and brash but the things you do in life you will never forget. and all things have consequences that you wont realize until later.

Give it a think...

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Question regarding looters in Charley's aftermath
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2004, 09:26:21 PM »
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Originally posted by Ozark
Get a grip?

You take item that don't belong to you and justify it?
Your just a lowlife criminal!


I didnt say I wasnt, I also said it was 31 years ago and I was a street urchin who barly had food to eat, I didnt try to justify it. I was pointing out that we all do things in life that are wrong and
killing someone for something like stealing would make you more evil thast the thief.

You know people grow up and realize that they did wrong.