can someone explain "the rope to" me?

[Wotan]

SOB was just quoting something a well known AH trainer once said before he quit.

"I was roped 10 times tonight in the DA and its gamey and takes advantage of my stupidity"

Is how it went IIRC...

[Grits]

Originally posted by Murdr
I consider  'perfectly' to be his nose starting to drop just as I face him.  But thats me.

I thought that was what I said only a bit differently. I said  " Ideally the rope victim will come over the top in a stall while you are on the way down". Sounds a lot like what you said.

[Edbert]

So, when you are climbing up after your target and just a few MPH above stall speeds notice that your target is out of E and beginning to wallow and that you are catching him and only need to hold verticle for one more second...

















...thats when you KNOW his buddy is about to blast your stationary, lack-of-SA arse right outta the sky

[FT_Animal]

Originally posted by SOB
I heard it's super gamey...especially if you're suckered into it one too many times.

;-)
~A

[simshell]

works great in aircraf that gain speed well in climbs

other day took off in a F4U4 headed to furball area at 14k and roped 2 ponys 1 after the other:D       thats when the icon pays off:D

[beet1e]

Rope - as described above. It just so happens that I have a short film (4 mins) which shows two ropes -  first a Spit who tried chasing me and, towards the end of the film, a 109. I had dived in on a pot luck sweep - got a n1k, but then a 109 was in hot pursuit. My total E was greater than his. Worked like a charm. You may notice a high 109 towards the end - that was straffo, and he damn near got me, but not quite. Get the film here.

PS - this was 6 months ago - may need the AH1 film viewer(?)

[fd ski]

Be careful using that move in multicon situation. Your SA better be good.

You're just as much of a duck as the other guy if con has 1k on you..

[Stone]

how many times have I died when I relize the guy under me has more E than I thoght, and he gets to D400 and shoots me down when I stall

[Jackal1]

Main Entry: 1rope
Pronunciation: 'rOp
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English rAp; akin to Old High German reif hoop
1 a : a large stout cord of strands of fibers or wire twisted or braided together b : a long slender strip of material used as rope c : a hangman's noose d : LARIAT
2 : a row or string consisting of things united by or as if by braiding, twining, or threading
3 plural : special or basic techniques or procedures

[Simaril]

Question -- does the reversal at the top come best with roll, pitch, or yaw? And, what should the goal be for airspeed? Are flaps counterproductive, or do they allow you to better tie the noose?


And roger that on SA.....

[Zanth]

visit http://www.netaces.org read part called "mastering the merge"


109G10 seems very good for this.

[68DevilM]

Originally posted by SOB
I heard it's super gamey...especially if you're suckered into it one too many times.

yeah i learned my lesson going after someone trying to rope me a long time ago, and now i wont follow if i know i dont have the e to get him

[thrila]

Ok i've found a film of one.  I was surprised i didn't have more as it is a favourite of mine.   As with zanth's diagram i usually zoom down infront of a con and zoom up infront of him in an attempt to bait him.  


In this film i had a hefty alt adv, it's a shame i couldn't find a film where my E adv wasn't so large.

rope

[Edbert]

Originally posted by Simaril
Question -- does the reversal at the top come best with roll, pitch, or yaw? And, what should the goal be for airspeed? Are flaps counterproductive, or do they allow you to better tie the noose?


And roger that on SA.....

I prefer rudder when at the top, sort of a hammerhead stall then. Pitch is fine if you got the extra smash for it, add a little roll to line up his belly just right (you want him to be blind), flaps only if the victim stalls too soon and you gotta come around really quick. Actual airspeed is going to vary greatly depending on your aircraft and the overall situation around you.

[phookat]

Originally posted by Simaril
Question -- does the reversal at the top come best with roll, pitch, or yaw?

Probably depends on the plane.

Originally posted by Simaril
And, what should the goal be for airspeed?

Focus on relative speeds in combination with distance, and in combination with relative climbing rates of the two plane types.  Do not focus on only your speed, except to make sure it doesn't get below controllability.  If you are approaching uncontrollable speeds and he doesn't look like he's stalling fast enough to avoid the HO on your dive, break off the rope and level off.  If the guy is catching up too fast to just level off, then you screwed up the rope and you're about to die.  So, dive to get some speed and then try a reversal.

Originally posted by Simaril
Are flaps counterproductive

They are often helpful because they lower your stall speed, and let you keep control for a little longer while you wait for them to stall.