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Kev367th · « **on:** August 19, 2004, 07:47:36 AM »

Although I am all for the new system I realize that people want to fly the P51, La7 etc.

1) First thing that would need done is to revise the perk system, base the perk cost on the ENV value of the plane.

For example only.
262 ENV 5 = 200 perks. =40 perks per ENV but apply in reverse.

Therefore we would have.
ENV 5 = 200 perks
ENV 6 = 160 perks
ENV 7 = 120 perks
ENV 8 = 80 perks
ENV 9 = 40 perks
ENV 10 and over = free

Obviously the ENV value of planes may need to be revised. Also the 'base' price (200) may need to be revised.

2) Not all low ENV planes would be perked (as it is now), the perk prices would only kick in when the ENV limiter kicks in.

3) This would allow players to still take thier favourite rides even when limited but at a realistic cost and not some 'token' price.

4) Lower numbered sides are not affected as thay are not limited due to ENV. (see 2)

5) Doesn't affect newbies unless they are on the highest numbers side. But they can't get them at moment anyway, so no change.

Realistically perk prices should have been based on the ENV value and not the, too many people are flying them, or the not many were built reasons that are currently used.

O.K. hatches are battened down for the "thats to high' complaints.

Innominate · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2004, 07:51:54 AM »

Those costs are perfect and should be applied to all of the current sub 10 ENY aircraft.

Seriously though, I only have two problems with the current balancing system. The first is that I think the disabled planes should only become perked. The second is that it's shown me how great the MA would be if the horde planes were perked.

Kev367th · « **Reply #2 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:00:03 AM »

Already figured that in Innominate, look at point 2.

Innominate · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:02:09 AM »

I think the point I was making is that the low eny planes should be perked anyways.

Kev367th · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:05:16 AM »

Thought about it, but I think it puts the newbs at too much of a disadvantage.
You could argue it wouldn't matter what plane hes flying, but at least let them feel like they have chance.
Or maybe give them 500 perks for their 2 week trial and 500 more if they stay?
The only main problem I can see is that people would want the P51 and La7 at a lot lower cost than stated.

Zanth · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:09:37 AM »

I not studied it, but seems like a good idea. You would have to reset perks every tour though, to prevent people from "banking" their perks to circumvent any restriction.

Kev367th · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:12:17 AM »

Don't think banking would be a problem, most players have 1000's of perks they don't use anyway. I think that under the system I have suggested most wouldn't fly the La7, P51 at those prices, only the die hards.

Zanth · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:14:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
Don't think banking would be a problem, most players have 1000's of perks they don't use anyway.

exactly so they would unfairly get to detour around the whole system.

Kev367th · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:16:29 AM »

As HT was considering exempting the perked planes from restrictions anyway, all this would change would be to allow a slightly greater range of planes for the limited side, but at a realistic price. Still think at my suggested prices you would not see the hoards of P51 and La7 from the high numbered country, even with perk banking.
As I said it's only an idea, I hope people can add to it and maybe something can happen that should have happened a long time ago. WE FIX THE PROBLEM.

Zanth · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:22:45 AM »

Any new system should be fair to all, everyone (even the lowly newbie) would need have to be on a level playing field if you implement perks in a new context.

Kev367th · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:26:40 AM »

Agreed, but if the newb is on the lowest numbered side it doesn't affect him as is the current situation. It also doen't affect the newb on the high numbered side as at present he can't get one anyway.
The only change is to give the higher numbered side access to disabled planes but at a cost relative to its ENV value. I am not suggesting perking them always, only when ENV lmited.
This leaves the current system in place, and gives the high numbered side access to the P51, La7 etc.

Forgot to add that the perked restircted planes should be be subject to the perk multiplier, these would be base prices.
If you really think about it, how many 262 do you see flying from the country with the highest numbers, not many due to the cost.
So although P51 and La7 would be available I still think their use would be limited as opposed to noe at all with the present system.

Don't forget I'm all for the present setup just trying to give people other options.

Zanth · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:37:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
This leaves the current system in place, and gives the high numbered side access to the P51, La7 etc.

This is the part that I question without perk resetting.

Kev367th · « **Reply #12 on:** August 19, 2004, 08:41:35 AM »

Understood Zanth, but think about it if the base price for a Pony was 120 and the perk multiplier was 1.5, would you pay 180 perks for one. Only the die hards will.
Remember the other countries would still have free Ponys and La7's.
All HT would have to decide on is which normally free planes are avaible at a cost when ENV limited.
Quick scenrio - Country A has Ponys up costing 180 perks (1.5 multiplier).
Country B intercepts in Free Ponys and perked Ponys run to deck.
It's furball island
Country C just happens to have Free La7s down there or 100 perk 262s at medium alt.

In all honesty I don't think my suggestion would change the MA during a big numbers imbalance, all it does it give the high numbers countries pilot the option to up low ENV planes but at a realistic cost.
What is does do is stop the 'I want to fly a pony etc when I want' people. Yes you could, but you would have to pay an equitable for it.

Yup it may lead to timid flying, but the MA has that already.
Just think of the satifaction of knocking down a Pony costing 160 perks with a free one.