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Offline Jackal1

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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2004, 02:56:42 PM »
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Jackal - Would the country SWAPPING feature would resolve some of the stability in staying with a particular country?

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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2004, 04:04:30 PM »
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Urchin lets say I havn't switched in 6 hours. So I switch to the big country. Check out its CV's, and since I came from the low side I can switch right back.

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I honestly don't see this as a problem.  First of all, people do it already with "shade" accounts or 2 week accounts.  Secondly, I actually think hiding the CV is stupid, and people wouldn't be looking for it if it wasn't hidden.

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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2004, 04:31:41 PM »
Jackal:

For the idea I've thrown out for discussion here the system makes a 1st pass at balancing countries out and assigning pilots to countries to do this.

Players still have the option to switch countries to the country of their preference.  This would be allowed in 2 manners - temporary switching and permanent switching/swapping.

For the permanent country switch/swap- a player or squadron can request to be switched to a different country permanently only if there is a pilot or squadron available to SWAP countries with them (with similar ratings used by the system for determining the country balance).  

A swap is done 1st with anyone/squadron that hasn't been online yet.  If there are no matches then the request goes into a bartering system that takes willing requestors to find a match for a swap.

The idea is to provide the mechanism for those who like to fly with pilots in different squads etc. to hookup with them.

Did this system satisfy what you were advocating?

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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2004, 08:35:30 PM »
Awww OK, got ya.
  Quite frankly I think that would be opening up a whole new can of worms that would turn into a fiasco. First off, right from the get go a squad could get stuck somewhere they wish not to be.
  Some squads in the higher numbers sides have allready expressed a willingness to change over to Knight or Bishop . I think given a little time the system in place just might work itself out.
  Like I said earlier, I believe the key to a forced balancing, if all else fails and has to be done, can be found with the entry level players. They have made no country or squad ties at that time. If upon entry they are funneled to a country for a certain amount of time, I believe the majority will stay with that country.
  As we have seen , anything drastic in nature forced upon the players that have been around for a while is not going to go over easy. I think an actual balance is going to take a while to work itself out, but in the end will be more acceptable than disrupting the established player.
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2004, 08:39:45 PM »
HT unfortunately we the community as whole can't even control a persons integrity.  Hopefully the system wouldn't allow someone to switch to a higher side though.

Tangos idea is kinda what I was getting at in other posts but I'm frankly dumb when it comes to that kind of stuff.  As I've said in the past I'll go to any side that is needed so long as I'm going with my squad.

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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2004, 09:07:59 PM »
Tango,

wouldn't it be better to have the "non squad" pilots be allocated to the Low # country first?

Or If a squad member is online and allocatted to a L#Country then as his squad mates come online they are automatically moved to where the first guy online is.

Or have you said that? :eek:

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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2004, 09:54:01 PM »
Kind of funny...I signed back up and "it" made me a rook:)

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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2004, 12:56:54 AM »
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wouldn't it be better to have the "non squad" pilots be allocated to the Low # country first?

What I was proposing really was a system static balancing done by not looking at actual numbers of players but total number of hours online divided equally between 3 countries.  What that means is actual player numbers doesn't count - it's hours online they fly that count.

The aim is to achieve balance by grouping pilots using a form of equalizing the probabilities for amount of time pilots spend online across the 3 countries.

This method means you divy pilots by the number of hours online they fly therefore there isn't a "lowest" country during the static balance run.  Instead individual pilots are divied out so that there are roughly the same amount of total hours online for all 3 countries.

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Or If a squad member is online and allocatted to a L#Country then as his squad mates come online they are automatically moved to where the first guy online is.

This could be done and I said something like this in another thread but for specifically for the system described above it's not defined as such though you could implement it.

The dynamic balancing here is not system but pilot initiated through temporary switching or permanent swapping.

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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2004, 07:20:12 PM »
Understood :aok
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