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Offline 63tb

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« on: August 18, 2004, 12:53:13 PM »
Folks,

I just read this on CNN site.

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr announced Wednesday his militia will leave the Imam Ali Mosque, after a threat by the government to "liberate" the holy site.

In a letter from al-Sadr's office in Baghdad, al-Sadr said he agreed to three demands made to him Tuesday night by a delegation from the conference -- that he and his forces leave the mosque, disband the Mehdi Army and "enter into the mainstream political process."
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That's a quick 180, isn't it? Didn't he say a few days ago that they'd fight to the death? Any theories why he came around so quick (other than he'd probably wind up on a slab some time soon)?

Will this be viewed as bad news for Kerry (that's Bush's policies are starting to show results over there)?

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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2004, 12:54:04 PM »
They probably threatened him with a dentist.

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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2004, 12:56:25 PM »
I guess he got into another mindset about the benefits of becoming a martyre.
Apparently someone made a better bid.

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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2004, 12:59:47 PM »
We will be going throgh this agian in a few months..  

He says he will "disband" his Mehdi army. I wonder if this also includes turning in all their weapons to the US military...

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2004, 01:20:44 PM »
Right now there's a shortage of virgins in Paradise, so the "fight to the death" thing isn't near as appealing as it was.

Funny how when you're boasting and strutting it's easy to "fight to the death".

When you're surrounded and looking down the business end of really sophisticated weaponry, "fighting to the death" seems to lose it's appeal.

If they don't crush him and his band this time, the next time will only be worse. And there will be a "next time".

Let 'em leave the mosque. Let them leave after being DNA sampled, fingerprinted and photographed. Any non-Iraqis get a trip to the local prison for interrogation, A-Q's get an all expense paid trip to Gitmo. Oh, yeah, they leave wearing only a GI issue pair of boxer shorts, they get to take nothing with them. No guns, no nothing.

If they're caught with a gun again...... life in prison or just shoot 'em if they resist.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2004, 01:41:24 PM »
A very canny political 180, though.
By doing this he's saying that while he won't deal with Iyad Allawi or his government, as he is an illegitimate puppet, he will deal with the conference choosing a national assembly. And, by extension, the national assembly - which has the merit of being much further removed from the accusation of being linked to the US (a link which is political suicide in the long term).

Note the point in the article below - the Sadr movement was ready to take part in the political process “if it is honest”. The guy is in it for the long term, showing off his power over the "Iraqi" government and the US forces, without going too far down the military road to actually get crushed.

As a bonus he's got the "Iraqi" government and their forces looking like bloodthirsty oppressors with no regard for Shia Islam into the bargain, (a) for threatening the Ali Imam shrine at all and (b) threatening to do it after he agreed to leave. Pretty smart.

If the national assembly doesn't go his way, he'll no doubt start again.

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Sadr surprised by threats, had agreed to mediators’ demands: aide
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18 August 2004

DOHA - A spokesman for rebel leader Moqtada Sadr expressed surprise on Wednesday at threats of an imminent attack on his militia by Iraqi forces, saying the Shiite cleric had agreed to demands made by peace mediators.

“We are surprised by the declaration and threat by the minister of defense ... because we have given our full accord to the initiative presented by the delegation,” Ahmed Shibani said on Al Jazeera television.

Defence Minister Hazem al-Shaalan vowed that a “decisive” battle would be launched against Sadr militiamen, who he said must surrender within hours in the central holy city of Najaf, where heavy fighting raged earlier Wednesday.

Shibani said: “The delegation came with three demands, including that the Mehdi Army hands (the security of) the old city to the suitable party...and that the Sadr movement participates in the political process.”

He added that the Sadr movement was ready to take part in the political process “if it is honest”.

“We discussed these points and 10 other points that had been discussed with (National Security Advisor) Muaffaq al-Rubaie, and our efforts were successful. The delegation went back satisfied,” he said.

But the government of Prime Minister Iyad Allawi was “blocking”  any peaceful resolution of the crisis, he said.

“We are ready to meet the delegation anytime...we pledge to (organise) a meeting between Moqtada Sadr and the delegation” on the condition of “putting an end to the bombardment of the old city of Najaf and the end of the siege”, he said.

The fierce fighting has threatened a peace initiative spearheaded by emissaries from Iraq’s key national conference, who travelled to the shrine late Tuesday, only to be snubbed by Sadr who said “aggression by the Americans” had made it unsafe for him to appear.

Rajaa Habib al-Khuzai, a former member of Iraq’s former Governing Council, one of those who went to Najaf, said the head of the mission, Sheikh Hussein al-Sadr, would meet Allawi to ask for a ceasefire for a subsequent trip.

Khuzai also told Al Jazeera: “All what Shibani said was true. The mediation did not fail. On the contrary, it was a success. The meeting was positive.”

She also denounced the threats by the defense minister of an imminent offensive, saying: “It is regrettable because there was an agreement this morning.”
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2004, 09:09:54 AM »
such brave "freedom fighters"


 Fierce Fighting in Iraq's Najaf, Sadr Defiant
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2004, 09:37:27 AM »
ill bet he's dead in 6 months!
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2004, 11:52:24 AM »


He better hurry the hell up..

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2004, 01:29:45 PM »
The latest word was he regected the offer and is seeking "martyrdom or victory". All I can say is AMF! I just hope that his forces are eliminated and that they contain the cowards who are doing the kidnapping / executions.
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