skuzzy... savvis routing

[Shane]

Savvis has been playing ring around the routers in chicago for quite a while now... aren't 4 hops within chicago a little, ummm, excessive?

[Zanth]

I got troubles too, never was a problem nnow I am UDP/TCP almost every flight.   check this out:

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 216.91.167.39
  Date/Time: 8/18/2004 7:30:37 PM

 1    1 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    1 ms    1 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    1 ms    1 ms    1 ms  [192.168.254.254]
 2   89 ms   93 ms   88 ms   90 ms   91 ms   89 ms   96 ms   89 ms   92 ms   88 ms   90 ms   94 ms   87 ms   91 ms   87 ms   89 ms  61.5.19.209.transedge.com [209.19.5.61]
 3   95 ms   91 ms   92 ms   93 ms  106 ms   90 ms   90 ms   97 ms   89 ms   88 ms   94 ms   92 ms   88 ms   86 ms   88 ms   90 ms  f8-0.border1.rap.atl.transedge.com [216.217.3.189]
 4  106 ms  101 ms  105 ms  102 ms  102 ms  107 ms  104 ms  102 ms  110 ms  102 ms  101 ms  102 ms  101 ms  109 ms  116 ms  102 ms  a5-1-136.border1.eqx.iad.transedge.com [216.217.3.170]
 5  103 ms  101 ms  103 ms  101 ms  102 ms  100 ms  102 ms  101 ms  104 ms  102 ms  102 ms  113 ms  102 ms  106 ms  102 ms  109 ms  [208.173.51.141]
 6  103 ms  107 ms  102 ms  102 ms  103 ms  119 ms  101 ms  102 ms  102 ms  103 ms  103 ms  121 ms  102 ms  106 ms  126 ms  105 ms  dcr1-so-6-1-0.Washington.savvis.net [208.173.52.114]
 7 -32764 ms  121 ms  134 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms  120 ms  120 ms -32764 ms  125 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms  118 ms  128 ms  dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.99]
 8  132 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms  121 ms  174 ms  119 ms -32764 ms  120 ms  122 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms  119 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms  139 ms  123 ms  acr2-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.82]
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[JB73]

Originally posted by Zanth
Target Name: N/A
         IP: 216.91.167.39

using the wrong IP for the MA

it's 187 not 167

[Skuzzy]

Not really Shane.  Savvis is absorbing the Cable and Wireless network, and when an ISP gets that many pipes, it is not unusual to have multiple routers in the same building involved with a route.
Chicago happens to be one of the seven major Internet gateways/POP's.  Some huge networks meet there.

[Shane]

at least that "loopback" router seems to have disappeared.

used ot be about 14 hops to MA, now it's gone up to 18, partly due to atdn and partly to savvis...

pings have been consisently higher too from 35-50, up to 47-67...

ah well, hopefully adtn and saavis will eventually get their ducks in a row and tweak their routing downwards somewhat.