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Offline SaburoS

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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2004, 03:52:47 PM »
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Bush was a govcernor for 4 years, his first term in office IIRC so he a noob. On top of that the lefties say he is kinda slow so his poor performance may be undertandable by those two elements.

Kerry was senator for 20 years, not a noob in any way, many terms. The lefties also say that Kerry is smart and undersatands complexity.  So whats his excuse for a pointless 20 year record?

Chasing around for rich old widows?


C'mon Grun, that last line kind of uncalled for, also not necessary. Undermines the rest of your statement.
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2004, 03:56:46 PM »
Ok, now go answer the questipn.

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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2004, 04:17:53 PM »
Which one?
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2004, 04:26:18 PM »
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Kerry was senator for 20 years, not a noob in any way, many terms. The lefties also say that Kerry is smart and undersatands complexity.  


So whats his excuse for a pointless 20 year record?

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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2004, 04:31:20 PM »
There's many a slip twixt the cup and the lip.

I wouldn't call this election just yet. 60+ days is a long time in politics, especially when there's a war on and some deranged religious yahoos are still keen on blowing themselves up in public places. See Russian Airliner news.

Who should the Dems have run?

Well, this time around all that Bush has is the incumbency. The rest of the situation is an exploitable shambles. I don't think you had to be Miss Cleo to see that during the Democratic primaries.

So then. In no particular order, these folks threw their hats in the ring.

KERRY, KUCINICH, SHARPTON,  EDWARDS,  DEAN, CLARK, LIEBERMAN, GEPHARDT, MOSELEY BRAUN, GRAHAM

The first "get real" pass would eliminate Sharpton and Moseley Braun.

The second "let's see" pass would probably have eliminated Dean, Edwards, Clark and Kucinich.

That would leave Kerry, Lieberman, Gephardt and Graham, all somewhat well known Democratic politicians with enough record to run on.

So they pick the absolutely most liberal of the bunch, the one with probably the worst Congressional record to run on. The one that came home and P.O.'ed a whole lot of people with his anti-war activities. This is the clever strategy to capture the "undecided swing voters" that obviously are in the middle of the "right wing/left wing" continuum.

I'd have voted for Lieberman this year. I probably would have voted for Gephardt. I'd have to think long on Graham as I never really examined his record in detail. No forking chance on Kerry.

None, zip, zilch, nada.  

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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2004, 04:51:41 PM »
Toad I have to completly agree with you.  As far as real choices go they coulndt have picked a worse canidate.

This sign sums it up beautifully what the left is feeling right now:




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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2004, 05:41:43 PM »
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Toad I have to completly agree with you.  As far as real choices go they coulndt have picked a worse canidate.

This sign sums it up beautifully what the left is feeling right now:





Gunslinger the problem with that picture is that in all likelyness this man believes that Kerry is not liberal enough...

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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2004, 05:46:06 PM »
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Ok, now go answer the questipn.


Thought I did by my questions/comments.

I'll be voting for Kerry, not because of what he's done, but because of how Bush has handled the Presidency. We're going in the wrong direction. Runaway deficit and a murky foreign policy that's costing big bucks and fellow American lives (sorry, but I don't see our soldiers as expendible).
Is Kerry going to be this big hero savior to rescue us? LOL, no, that I doubt. My taxes are way to high as it stands. He's claiming to give me a tax break as well.
We'll see.

For those of you that want to point fingers and say "You're voting against Bush, but not for Kerry?"
I'll submit this:
You that voted for Bush last election was more a vote against Gore rather than a vote for Bush. Bush just didn't have a background/record that one could draw conclusions on how he'd be as President. Same thing.

BTW, before you all have a heartattack....relax. The above is my opinion only, just as you have yours.
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2004, 05:53:12 PM »
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Thought I did by my questions/comments.



Was this your answer?

Compare Bush's record as Governor and Kerry's record as Senator and tell me there's a big difference.

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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2004, 05:56:17 PM »
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Was this your answer?

Compare Bush's record as Governor and Kerry's record as Senator and tell me there's a big difference.


LOL, look up ^

I already asked the same question.

Answer: There really isn't any. But you and I both know this.
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2004, 07:05:54 PM »
Saburo please quote your own answer.  Thanks.

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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2004, 11:08:19 PM »
Kerry is a great debater. Unfortunately so is Bush. If Kerry has any chance at all it will be in the debates this fall. I think he may be able to do it, he ain't no Algordiot when it comes to the mind games.