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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2004, 06:26:33 PM »
I live in Kansas City and trust me this is not the first time KC police have been under the fire for tasering people.

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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2004, 08:07:38 PM »
Every police department has this kinda, stuff but the LA department has it really bad.  They took away the Cop big Metal flash light and told them to buy big rubber ones.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2004, 08:22:56 PM »
i bet it worked better than the wrinkle cream ;)

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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2004, 09:00:21 PM »
I've seen some Grannys on COPS that could use a good tazering.

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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2004, 11:04:58 PM »
You guys saw the newspapers. We here saw the TV inteviews as well. This is just an old Granny, not a 66 year old Ah-nuld.

Look..... it was honking a car horn fer pete's sake! It wasn't laying on the horn for 15 minutes either; it was just a couple of honks.

Remember, they left and CAME BACK to ticket her for a car horn incident.

Let me clue you..... there's A WHOLE LOT MORE BAD SHIP GOING ON IN KC THAN A CAR HORN HONKING!

If they were doing their job, they shoulda been patrolling for real crime instead of going back. This was all ego. She dared honk at the honkeys.

They shoulda warned her when they left the first time and DROPPED IT.

It's simply redickulouisness.
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2004, 11:15:14 PM »
Didn't the same thing happen in Police Academy 6?  

I'm sure the 66 year old woman was an immediate and deadly threat to these young strapping police officers.  And if they didn't deliver unto her the taz, she would have kicked there ****ing bejesus out of them.

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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2004, 06:29:36 AM »
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You guys saw the newspapers. We here saw the TV inteviews as well.



Ahhh the TV ! OH thats all right then




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I'm not defending these guys but I doubt there isnt a little more to this story than is being told  ie; manipulated. If a particular area such as Kansas City has a history or percieved history of Police maltreatment then truth aside, its so much more sellable for the media hounds be they, Newspaper, TV or otherwise to put in a nasty twist.  Lets face it. Bad news is good news to them.

Like I said, im not defending them. I wasnt there.  But if at 66 years of age, that silly old bag hasnt got enough sense to play by the rules and keep her mouth shut to Police, im not defending her either.

My whole point in this discussion is dont believe everything you see or hear without knowing the "facts" first hand.  Dont sit as Judge and jury unless you have all the evidence before you.  I doubt thats the case here.

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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2004, 10:53:15 AM »
TV allows you to see the Granny. She was a typical Granny; she's no martial arts expert.

Beyond that, here's an indisputable "fact": this whole incident stems from an old lady honking a car horn a few times.

Honking a car horn.


Yeah, THAT'S something that deserves the dedicated, unrelenting pursuit of our boys in blue. Let no man in the department rest until all car horn honkers are brought to justice.

How about they told her to knock off the car horn honking when cop cars are around, went and answered the second call and FORGOT ABOUT IT?

Cripes, what if she'd be shot resisting arrest on a car horn violation? What's next, shooting folks caught in the act of littering?
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2004, 11:07:56 AM »
I am sure granny and gramps do not have to worry about their tiny ss payment anymore :)
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2004, 12:10:56 PM »
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I am sure granny and gramps do not have to worry about their tiny ss payment anymore :)


I would hope that you are right and they get a mil.
To begin with they had no right to enter her home.

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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2004, 03:48:05 PM »
I don't know about the rest of you, but most of the cops I know are pretty well built and I would say any cop(or a group of 3 or 4) that  can't get granny on the ground without tasering her needs to find another job.  It's not like she had a knife, gun, stick or even a rock, just an old lady.

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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2004, 06:08:46 PM »
Could've been a previous or in progress domestic situation is why granny was upset to start with.  Those are dangerous for police to become involved in, because Fred might've come out shooting after seeing his wife being roughed up.  Especially if the husband had been drinking and pissed off beforehand.  

Sounds like in retrospect it might've been better for a rookie (which these men probably were) to call the precinct sargeant before doing anything.

Then if he said to arrest granny, the responsibilty would rest on his shoulders.  

I can see if the policemen weren't in their car, and might've been investigating something, then granny paid the consequences honking at them to move.  If they were in their car and could've easily moved to unblock a driveway or something, that may be different, provided granny wasn't under investigation to that point.  Sounds like poor timing to me.

But you never know.  Granny might've speeded down the street and had a wreck under this hypothetical situation.

I thought the voltage could be adjusted on Tasers.  They don't have to deliver full power, and I don't believe that was the case here.  Otherwise granny would have dropped like a sack of potatos and might have died.  How do you know it wasn't the best way to do things?  Use a billy club to start out and then administer a choke hold after getting granny on the ground?  Karate, Jujitsu, Aikido or Judo perhaps?  Are the officers trained in this?  Granny might have had a knife or pencil hidden away.  Grappling is too close for comfort.

I'd have to say there's not enough information about events leading up to the tasering, to reach any conclusions.

Other than:

 66 ain't all that old, and granny was in relatively good shape to take a tasering and keep on resisting...assuming she wasn't on PCP.




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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2004, 06:18:37 PM »
Was'nt she just sitting in the driveway honking the horn for slo-poke Fred? No radio call, right?
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2004, 06:30:06 PM »
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Could've been a previous or in progress domestic situation is why granny was upset to start with.  Those are dangerous for police to become involved in, because Fred might've come out shooting after seeing his wife being roughed up.  Especially if the husband had been drinking and pissed off beforehand.  

Sounds like in retrospect it might've been better for a rookie (which these men probably were) to call the precinct sargeant before doing anything.

Then if he said to arrest granny, the responsibilty would rest on his shoulders.  

I can see if the policemen weren't in their car, and might've been investigating something, then granny paid the consequences honking at them to move.  If they were in their car and could've easily moved to unblock a driveway or something, that may be different, provided granny wasn't under investigation to that point.  Sounds like poor timing to me.

But you never know.  Granny might've speeded down the street and had a wreck under this hypothetical situation.

I thought the voltage could be adjusted on Tasers.  They don't have to deliver full power, and I don't believe that was the case here.  Otherwise granny would have dropped like a sack of potatos and might have died.  How do you know it wasn't the best way to do things?  Use a billy club to start out and then administer a choke hold after getting granny on the ground?  Karate, Jujitsu, Aikido or Judo perhaps?  Are the officers trained in this?  Granny might have had a knife or pencil hidden away.  Grappling is too close for comfort.

I'd have to say there's not enough information about events leading up to the tasering, to reach any conclusions.

Other than:

 66 ain't all that old, and granny was in relatively good shape to take a tasering and keep on resisting...assuming she wasn't on PCP.




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What a crock. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2004, 06:37:27 PM »
In your case Beet1e, 66 is old.:D



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