New overtime laws

[Westy]

Don't worry.  If you earn more than than $23,661 this year and are unfortunate to have your job reclassified under the new, very gray rules (see link below), then you'll find out soon enough.  

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/fs17a_overview.htm

 Look on the bright side. Maybe your job won't be exported now that they can pay you less for the same time if not more.  Then again maybe not if it means they won't get that overseas tax break ......

[FUNKED1]

I got an idea, we let employees and employers negotiate salaries without the government forcing either party's hand.  It's called "freedom".

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Funked is a liberal!
-SW

[Westy]

lol. damn radical at that too. Who ever heard of people working things out sans gubberment interference.

[DoctorYO]

if You work in IT then your screwed..

Ill quote Fark's Comments:

PSA (tag) "Attention computer nerds: All your overtime are belong to us"

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/fs17e_computer.htm

Thats real fair...  Burger flipper with no investment into a long term carreer gets directly subsidized by IT workers with several years of investment (college, schooling, and most important time..) into their carreers.. (i dont want to hear congress moan about offshoring when they disenfranchise the US worker with this crud..  and note they do this in a recessed IT market to boot  Fubar IT nice going..)

Why be a computer engineer when you are discriminated in protection of overtime pay... (and yes in IT you pull overtime or your salary will reflect the 24 on call service you may provide..)  This is a bill/law that is obvious its meant to save companies money (not protect worker's pay).. and is heavily weighted for them..

exp..

1 computer engineer gets docked pay...  but 10 burgerflippers (burgerking for exp they got IT staff for their POS systems..) get new benefits at the engineer expense its a wash... for the company paying the salary..  taking from my pocket and putting into someone elses..

whats next doctors, engineers, professors(well maybe not them them)
lawyers.. etc.. get the picture..

Time worked should be time paid just that simple with no exemptions..  

you wonder why there is offshoring of IT..  This is another new reason to add to the bunch..

What i see happening to IT in america is that more and more will go into business for themselves and incorporate..  Then they will charge a flat rate for everything instead of hourly contract rates at a loss to the general consumer with inflated costs and prices as opposed to competitive hourly rates..  you watch and see..


Im against the new laws..  anytime you have loopholes they will be exploited.. usually at the cost to the consumer or general public..


2 cents.

DoctorYo

[-MZ-]

Originally posted by B17Skull12
WTF?!?! i though this is what Dem's were suposed to do?

Are you new to this planet?  


EXCERPT - LA TIMES

WASHINGTON — In an unprecedented overhaul of the nation's overtime pay rules, the Bush administration is delivering to its business allies an election-year plum they've sought for decades.

The new rules take effect today after surviving many efforts by Democrats, labor unions and worker advocates to block them in Congress and kill them through public and political pressure.

[-MZ-]

Also Gunsling, you are safe:

"The change will have little or no effect in California, which has its own stronger overtime rules, said Dean Fryer, spokesman for the state Department of Industrial Relations. 'The only ones who would be affected would be government employees, and they're covered by union contracts,' he said.

Seventeen other states have their own overtime rules, which will prevail if they offer stronger worker protections, said labor attorney George Preonas, of the Los Angeles office of Seyfarth Shaw"

[Coolridr]

OH well.....Military...we work 24/7 sometimes with no overtime and alot of us below the poverty level.

[Arlo]

I had it good in the service. `Course ... I was single. Man ... all the cash I blew on booze, broads and music.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by -MZ-
Also Gunsling, you are safe:

"The change will have little or no effect in California, which has its own stronger overtime rules, said Dean Fryer, spokesman for the state Department of Industrial Relations. 'The only ones who would be affected would be government employees, and they're covered by union contracts,' he said.

Seventeen other states have their own overtime rules, which will prevail if they offer stronger worker protections, said labor attorney George Preonas, of the Los Angeles office of Seyfarth Shaw"

I'm not worried about it myself, Active duty military dont make overtime....even as little as we are paid for our work something, we still make the same amount.  

I just find it funny that these rules were drafted by a republican but are aimed at low income wage earners and also protect blue colar workers.

Then we have john edwards blasting this because it takes a small percentage of worker's overtime away.