Author Topic: JABO and Buff attack.. Suicide writ LARGE.  (Read 351 times)

Offline SageFIN

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JABO and Buff attack.. Suicide writ LARGE.
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2000, 07:28:00 PM »
CaveJ, about your comment on the .50 cals and "playability issues":
If I remember right, USA air force switched to cannons sometime after the war. At least by the time of the Korean war, the cannons were in widespread use. If I am wrong, correct me, but if I remembered it right, then there must have been a reason for why they abandoned normal mgs too  .

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JABO and Buff attack.. Suicide writ LARGE.
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2000, 10:00:00 AM »
I agree with Hang's basic points.

1.  JABO  is plain suicide.  This isn't right.  If I can't use my F4U as a good attack plane, I'm missing something.  It should be possible to kill acks at a field and live if you are skilled.  Right now in AH it is not possible.

2.  Attacking buffs is suicide most of the time.  This is a result of too many guns converging at once.  If I can get a front 1/4 high pass on a buff, I'll do it.  Other than that you WILL die.  I do find the .50 cal of the fighters to be lethal enough however.  It is tough to down a buff with them, but you can do it if you get a sustained burst in.  Even a sweeping shot at convergence will take off tail plane parts.  I find the lethality about right on the fighters.

What gets me about the .50 cal on the buffs and the acks is the range.  Especially the field ack... damn that stuff is deadly.  The really unbalaced part is that buffs can go to rediculous altitude and drop the ack easily with their laser-guided bombs, while I can't eve drop one ack and live in a fighter/bomber.

We need to make the field ack a bit less accurate with less range IMHO.  The buffs need realistic service ceilings, and the bombing needs to require some skill.  Also maybe ease up the range on the buff's guns.  A lone Buff should be meat, and right now you need 2-3 guys to attack at once to down one reliably.  Even then you will lose a one or two fighters.



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Offline dolomite

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JABO and Buff attack.. Suicide writ LARGE.
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2000, 10:54:00 AM »
SageFin-

The F86 is but one example of Korean war era aircraft that retained the 6x.50 armament. I'm guessing ground attack vehicles switched to cannons first, and with the advent of rotary cannon, fighters afterward.