NATEDOG.. F4U1-C... I'll take one to go with fries and large coke!

[Fishu]

When 190D12, D13 or Ta-152 is to come?
Fish wants to play with cannons and fast plane.

[bashwolf]

Hehe did someone say, 190d9 or 190D12


Wahoo Bring it on more plane more planes

Bash

[Swoosh]

Hey Kid,

I know how dire is your need to prove to the rest of us that you are a consummate Luftwobble snob, but if you could leave your misplaced patriotism in the storage locker for a few missions, try the F4U-1C when it comes out.  Really, just because we won the war doesn't mean that we wont share them with ya.  



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[spinny]

I was incorrect re the armament weight in the -1D: the ammo weighs about 823 lbs (2350 rounds @ 35 lbs/100 rounds).

[Hristo]

No matter what you puit in it, the Hog will still be the ugliest plane around  

[Lephturn]

I resemble that remark!  

Those big purty gull wings and awsome blue paint is a hell of a lot better looking than that UGLY 109 you fly Hristo.  



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The Flying Pigs

[Hristo]

Nah, it just looks like a blue mix of a Stuka and Thunderbolt  

[Torgo]

To interrupt the love-fest, I'm a bit dismayed that, with the game needing so many more planes, it was decided to include a plane which had a measly production run of 200 in the game..particularly with no RPS or usage restrictions.

[spinny]

I'll bet there were more fully operational -1Cs than Georges  

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Spinny, VF-17, The Jolly Rogers 8X

[dolomite]

Torgo-

I'll bite.

I'm glad we are at least taking a different production path than BrandW- else why would anyone change? I love the La5FN, C205V, N1K2J, B26.... they are some of my favorite rides. I am confident we will see even more exotic aircraft as time goes on.

Ta152? Sure! Lancaster? Why not? Il-2? You bet! La7? The sooner the better!

More is always better IMHO. I'm going to fly every new plane they make regardless, as that is one of the things I like about flight sims, the opportunity to test out various historic aircraft in combat.  

[Vermillion]

Hmmm.... Spinny.

I will take that bet  

1,435 Shindens were built versus 200 -1C's.

Now the Shinden had a poor operational record, but I don't think that only 1 of 7 were actually flow in Combat.  



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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure,
Dicta Verm: "Never give the suckers an even break!" or translated "Never engage without an advantage"

[spinny]

It was hyperbole  ...but Joe Baugher indicates that only 1007 N1K1-J (including prototypes) were built. I take it the model 11A is the one we have (the earlier Model 11 had fuselage-mounted machine guns), he doesn't give figures for the 11 vs the 11A.
He does say this, though: "The N1k1-J [while an outstanding plane] was...not without its faults. Operations were plagued by frequent undercarriage malfunctions, the complex double-retraction landing gear causing lots of problems. Aircraft availability was frequently limited by insufficient maintenance crews and by logistics problems. the Homare engine was rather unreliable and was a maintenance headache...."

Anyway, fighting squadrons were equipped with the -1C and did see action. Don't begrudge us poor Navy/Marine pilots our one cannon-armed bird (not that I think you are, Verm   ).


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[Heater]

Poor Buff Drivers
   

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Shit Happens All The Time

If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done."

[Torgo]

La5FN, C205V, N1K2J, B26 exotic?

There were a jillion La-5s and B-26s built that saw combat.  Just because people haven't modeled them much before doesn't mean they're exotic.

I'm just worried about the possible philosophy change the 1C may represent...

Is it gonna be variants/planes WB doesn't have at any price?  Great if it's the C205 and La-5, but get into obscure variants with tiny runs and I worry.

By a huge margin it's the smallest production run of any WB/AH plane or variant cranked out, I believe. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)

Sure, people love the Corsair. It was my favorite plane as a kid (largely due to my Black Sheep TV obsession..I was just the right age for that show.)

It's just gonna bother me to see an arena filled with the things when, by any possible consideration, they were insignificant in WWII.

I'd rather see the F4U-4 with 6x.50...a lot more of those built, at least.

Sure, the Shinden ended up being pretty insignificant, but 1000 is still 5 times more than 200...

I hope the IAR-80 is next, though, if we are gonna have AC THIS obscure :-)

[Torgo]

Actually, there were only 262 C205Vs built..

So it's reasonably close to the F4U-1C in numbers..

However it:

1) Appeared in 1943 and stayed in combat the rest of the war, with the Italian allied forces. The 1C didn't see combat till April 1945 and I vaguely remember reading something about them having extreme problems with the cannons icing up at altitude which limited their use.)

2) Is the only Italian plane.

3) Earlier models of Italian fighters like the 202 which had a 1,200 run would be utterly worthless without a RPS and there's no indication AH will have one soon.

So, the 205V bothers me a lot less than the F4U-1C...and, additionally, due to the fact it's older than the balance of the AH plane set it's not like it's seen in the arena in vast numbers.