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Offline Grits

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« on: August 26, 2004, 03:15:20 PM »
Here is a post in the general forum about not getting hits and or not doing damage because of v-synch.

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Had similar problem.

For me the problem was V-Sync!!!

Was getting good hits on cons but little or no damage.

As per Skuzzy turned V-Sync to always on rather then program preferences and now when I hit parts come off etc.


I agree the Zeke is a bit too tough, but maybe some of your problems are with v-synch? Are you still running with v-synch off or did you turn it on?

With v-synch off you can light a target up like a christmas tree and not actually get hits.

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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2004, 01:52:26 AM »
I turned V sync on but now the planes seem much more sluggish.  Is that a possibility?  I'm a computer imbecile. :D

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2004, 08:40:22 AM »
You know I'm not really sure Storch. I dont know that much about it either, all I know is I've see both HT and Skuzzy say it should be on for AH or strange things happen with gunnery.

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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2004, 10:07:34 AM »
I turned it back on but havent really had a chance to test it.

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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2004, 02:26:42 PM »
Flew in the MA last night for a few sorties. I had several no damage hits just for someone else to finish off the kill. I did get credit but not untill it almost cost me my life. I dont see any difference as of now with sync on or off.

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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2004, 03:01:08 PM »
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Flew in the MA last night for a few sorties. I had several no damage hits just for someone else to finish off the kill. I did get credit but not untill it almost cost me my life. I dont see any difference as of now with sync on or off.
because you fly 50cal dweeb planes.  your hit power has been drasticly reduced.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2004, 07:56:19 PM »
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because you fly 50cal dweeb planes.  your hit power has been drasticly reduced.


HIt power has only been reduced on armor.

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2004, 08:14:34 PM »
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because you fly 50cal dweeb planes.  your hit power has been drasticly reduced.


so now anything that is not cannon equipped is a dweeb plane, huh?  I think you gots your  planes crossed.......the cannon equipped planes are dweeb planes including the P38 and the F4U1C:D

especially if they head on you....no wait it isn't the plane it is the pilot that is the dweeb!:lol
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2004, 10:19:25 PM »
hawk if you wanna do some more test do it on a plane that doesn't have amour at all like the A6M.  Have you and a buddy go fly to a a6m to some place with grass and you do the same test to see how many hits it takes ot do damage.

i'd be willing to help you with this if needed.  Me thinks it is the Amour.  but i know how you feel, anytime i hit something with my 20mm it never seems to do damage anymore.
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2004, 11:30:37 PM »
My first suggestion would be to double check your convergence.

and of course, having v-sync enabled. your monitor only puts out the max refresh rate it is capable of, which is why the "higher" fps with v-sync disabled is both misleading and can result in certain unseen frames where damage was done being "tossed out" and not sent to the server.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2004, 07:12:54 AM »
I have my frame rate set at 60 max. It normaly stays a steady 62. At the god-al-mighty fleets, it stays at 45. My convergence settings depend on what I am fighting and how they evade.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2004, 08:10:08 AM »
not the overall convergence (altho it can have an effect of "wtf, no dmg" if you hit outside of that optimal range) but rather the actual convergence of various guns on the platform ur using.  

The p-51 is notorious for having it's 6-gun covergence revert back to default 300-350-400 (not mid-flight, no)  due to the fact its .cfg file is read-only, so when you lougout then log in later, it's been changed and you may be unaware of this. ergo, you may be thinking ur pounding away, when only 2 guns are hitting hard and the other 4 just peppering - or missing.

I manually opened the .cfg file, unchecked read-only for the pony and set all guns to 400 yds then made it read-only again, so it never reverts back to the original default settings.
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2004, 08:14:59 AM »
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not the overall convergence (altho it can have an effect of "wtf, no dmg" if you hit outside of that optimal range) but rather the actual convergence of various guns on the platform ur using.  

The p-51 is notorious for having it's 6-gun covergence revert back to default 300-350-400 (not mid-flight, no)  due to the fact its .cfg file is read-only, so when you lougout then log in later, it's been changed and you may be unaware of this. ergo, you may be thinking ur pounding away, when only 2 guns are hitting hard and the other 4 just peppering - or missing.

I manually opened the .cfg file, unchecked read-only for the pony and set all guns to 400 yds then made it read-only again, so it never reverts back to the original default settings.


Hmmm, I will have to check on that!

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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2004, 10:24:11 AM »
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Originally posted by Shane
 

The p-51 is notorious for having it's 6-gun covergence revert back to default 300-350-400 (not mid-flight, no)  due to the fact its .cfg file is read-only, so when you lougout then log in later, it's been changed and you may be unaware of this. ergo, you may be thinking ur pounding away, when only 2 guns are hitting hard and the other 4 just peppering - or missing.

I manually opened the .cfg file, unchecked read-only for the pony and set all guns to 400 yds then made it read-only again, so it never reverts back to the original default settings.


Thanks Shane.  Is this a known bug and is it applicable to all other planes as far as the .cfg files?

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2004, 12:44:35 PM »
it varies... some planes never seem to change, even if you made them different...  i'd say there are a handful of planes this applies to, beats me if i can name them all... i recall the spit9 being one to change now and then... and probably one of the 109's iirc.  there's almost no consistency or pattern behind it.  never hurts to check ur 1st ride(s) in a plane(s) of the day after u log in.

easiest way to totally prevent this from happening is to go thru all the cfg files  (planetype.cfg) and manually set your convergences - making sure to uncheck the read-only attribute before editing it. then setting your convergences (in feet) then saving and then re-checking the read-only. the only difficult thing can be determining which lin ein teh cfg file applies to which set of guns. I always have all guns on a plane set to converge the same distance so it's no big for me to have done that. some people, however, like to vary their convergence settings, i.e. many fweenies like to do that, apparently, and that would require more effort in editing the files.

then, you can still change convergence in game, but next time you open AH  it'll default back to the saved .cfg file settings.


it's been a long time since i've been hit by that, so i'm unsure if in fact perhaps HT had fixed it whenever. which is why i was suggesting to check, just in case it's still present.
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