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Offline leonid

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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2004, 08:25:41 AM »
Wolfala,

Ignore these ignoramuses [edit: everyone except fd ski, that is].  Have fun in Russia.  I went in June of 2002, and had a blast.  Saw Boroda, Africa, and the whole gang.  A great bunch of people who just wouldn't let me spend my money.  Stayed at Boroda's flat almost the whole time.  Pavel (Boroda's name) is a very gracious host and a good friend.

Saw Oleg Maddox and his 1C studio with games in the works.  He is also a very gracious man.  People in Moscow are cool for the most part, just think cosmopolitan and you'll be fine.  A little Russian would help, but it's not an absolute.  Just hang loose, because most Russians actually like westerners - as people.  It's the politics stuff that gets them (and us) roiled up.

A ton of museums in Moscow too.  Tanks galore (kubinka) - and planes too (monino).  The Kremlin is very cool to see.  All the greenery in Moskva will surprise you too.  Like Seattle in that respect.

So, have fun!  I envy you :)

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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2004, 09:43:27 AM »
Only been to Moscow once and it was in the Communist era. Seemed very alien to me at the time (11 years old). People were very friendly however, especially our guides and the kids at the English school we visited.

If you can visit the Space park (Gorky?).
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2004, 11:27:53 AM »
Leonid, thank you! ;) But I have to say that I was a very lazy host, and drank too much, so I think normal people unlike me could show you much more :(

Domodedovo is the best modern airport around Moscow, all arrival/departure signs are copied in English and in other national languages, so you'll not have any problems catching your flight.

Yes: beware of the Gypsies! I think that you'll recognize them if there are any in Domodedovo.

For how long will you stay in Moscow? How much time between the flights? What date and what time of day? Domodedovo is about 40km from the city, so you'll need maybe at least 6 hours for a brief tour to the Center to see the Red Square and Kremlin without being afraid to be late... I haven't been to Domodedovo for maybe 5 years, I know that they have express electric trains to Paveletsky railway terminal, and from there you can get to the Center in 10-15min by underground. But you'd better find some kind of a guide because in underground you can have some problems, especially if you can't read Cyrillic somehow.

You can drop me a line with your flight details, so i'll try to meet you there (but unfortunately I can't promise it).

Why did you choose Blagoveschensk as your final destination? Going to China then? I have never been East of Baikal lake, but I suppose you can have great fishing there :)

We have some nice guys from WBFH in Novosibirsk, so you can try asking them for some assistance too, it can be usefull.

Bodhi, this "yeb vas!" is situationally incorrect.

FD-Ski, very nice advises, I couldn't say it better.

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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2004, 11:36:49 AM »
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I need to update my profile, i'm in Warsaw, Poland those days :)


What? When did you leave NYC? Did you move back for good, or is this just a temporary thing?

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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2004, 11:45:25 AM »
Take an extra liver and you'll be fine.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2004, 12:27:34 PM »
I will be leaving for my second trip to Russia three weeks from today.  While that definately doesn't make me an expert I will tell you about the things I picked up the first time in case it helps.  It will be a little long winded but I will give you the information I wish I had had the first time.  Especially for the flights because that was the most akward part for me.

Spoiler warning:  Some of this might spoil the adventure of discovery for you so if you are worried about that just kind of skim what I am saying and read the parts you want to know about.

First thing is that once you get to Sheremetyevo airport just kind of follow the crowd to the immigration/customs control booth.  The area is clearly marked so it won't be too hard once you get there to figure out what line to get in.  Once they verify your visa is correct, you will pick up your luggage and go through customs.  Again, a pretty easy (and surprisingly fast) process.  

Immediately after you get through customs you enter the main part of the terminal.  Be prepared to be literally assaulted by cab drivers.  I mean it they will horde on you like the Rooks during an RJO.  They will try to grab your luggage, try to convince you to ride with them, etc.  I do not know how true it is but from everything I have read and heard from both Russans and foreigners do NOT accept a ride from any of them.  Instead either take public transportation or pre-arrange a trustworthy driver to meet you.

When I was there I had pre-arranged for a driver named Slava.  He spoke understandable English and was as much a tour guide as a driver.  His car was also clean and he drove safely.  I really also really enjoyed his stories.  He charges a flat rate (plus tip of course) of $40 to the center of Moscow or $30 to transfer airports.  If you are interested in contacting him he can be reached through his web site at http://www.moscowdrivers.net/index.php.  

The domestic flights are a little different too.  I flew out of the Sheremetyevo domestic terminal which may be different then the one you are going to use but I will tell you what it and the airport in Volgograd were like.  

The security pre-screen is much like here in the states but once you get through there you check in at what reminds me of a ticket counter.  Check-in will take place at a row of booths with one booth for each flight.  There they will assign your seat and check your luggage.   Then you go sit in the lounge.  When they call your flight you will move to the door and then wait outside.  A bus will pull up and you will eventually get on it to be taken to the plane.  While seats are assigned on the plane, there will still be the mad scramble to get on to the plane.  It is rather chaotic so be prepared to be jostled and bumped.

Again, the Volgograd airport might be different then where you are going, but at the Volgograd airport you ride us a bus to a gate in the fence.  You go through there and the luggage collection area was in what looked like a small warehouse to me.  Collect your bags from there and then start looking for transportation to your hotel.  Cab coverage can be pretty intermittent so be prepared to either pre-arrange a ride (most hotels offer this) or to take public transportation.

A few other tips I would give you would be to arrange for some type of translator.  A person to accompany would be best, but if that is not in the plan then look into getting some kind of book or electronic gizmo.  I personally loaded a Russian-English-Russian dictionary onto my Palm PC and it helped ALOT.  Ectaco makes some pretty decent software.

I woild also suggest that you take a good mix of cash, traveler's checks, and plastic with you to cover your expenses.  Most cities outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg do not accept dollars.  You can however exchange travellers checks and cash at most banks though they will charge you a commision.  Also, outside of some banks there are "private" money exchangers who will generally give you a better deal then the bank.  Credit cards will most of the time not be accepted in restaurants and the like outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg but I did find a bit of a loophole.  I have one of those Credit/Debit cards.  In Volgograd there are ATMs everywhere.  Since hitting an ATM was far easier then going through all the hassle of exchanging money at a bank I used them to get money for most of my expenses.  The loophole was that, unlike the banks, the ATMs did NOT appear to charge any commision on the money I took out.  They also appeared to be a bit more generous then the banks on the exchange rate.  Be prepared to eat (a lot) and expect each meal to take quite a long time as they are all multi-course and each course comes in its own time.  

Final thing I can think of is culture related.  Russians do not smile or make eye-contact as much as Westerners.  Do not be alarmed by this just letting you know since it caught me off guard.  Also, respect the crosswalks and walk/don't walk lights.  As soon as a traffic light turns green the drivers will go and if you happen to be in their way too bad for you.  Finally, be sure to have your passport on you at all times and to carry all your valuables in a front pocket or someplace safe like that.

I can think of a million other things but I don't want to take all the fun away.  If you can think of any other things you might want to know just ask and I will try to answer your questions as best I can.

Just remember to be polite to people and aware and you will have a great time.  Russians are some of the best people in the world.

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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2004, 03:06:28 PM »
Dude,

Awesome responses and I really appreciate everything. As far as the schedule, here's the scoop with the flights.

AEROFLOT 322 SEPT 13TH LOS ANGELES TO MOSCOW - ARRIVING SEPTEMBER 14TH 550PM AT SHEREMETYEVO

JUST OVERNIGHTING IN MOSCOW AND TAKING SIBERIA AIRLINES FROM DOMODEDOVO AT 230PM TO NOVOSIBIRSK ARRIVING AT 920PM.

WAITING ABOUT 1.5 HOURS TO CATCH A CONNECTION FROM NOVOSIBIRSK TO BLAGOVENSCHENSK AT 1050PM, GETTING IN SOMETIME AROUND 6:00 AM ON SEPTEMBER 16TH.

I STAY IN BLAGOVENSCHENSK UNTIL SEPTEMBER 23RD, CATCH AN 830AM FLIGHT TO NOVOSIBIRSK,AND ARRIVIE IN MOSCOW AROUND 320PM ON SEPTEMBER 23RD AT DOMODEDOVO.

THE DAY I'M GOING BACK TO LOS ANGELES IS A 1020 OUT OF
SHEREMETYEVO.

The first hotel in Moscow when I arrive, I will be staying at:

Hotel: Ukraina
Address:
2/1 Kutuzovsky Prospekt
121249 - Moscow

The second one is located a little closer to red square because I figured i'd be around a bit longer to explore a bit.

Hotel: Orlyonok
Address:
Kosigina st. 15
117334 - Moscow

So basically its just Moscow overnight while comming or going. All of the advice is fantastic - I know my head feels like mush with all the crap the remember, and I thought getting a Visa was enough of a *****. (Why do we have those anyway?) As for why going to bumble**** Russia - the simple answer to that is "why not?" But actually one of my friends, I helped her little sister with an operation for correcting a pretty bad case of Scholeosis - so i'm going to visit her and the family to see how everyone is. The other reason is I wanted to immerse myself in a culture that is so far removed from anything i'd been exposed to in the USA so that it'd leave a lasting impression. I don't think i'd get that with purely staying in Moscow. So i'll be in Blag for 8 days, during which i'll be popping across the river to China and going as far north as the old army base at Zavatinsk.

But overall i'm really excited. When I told mom she nearly **** herself, but thats the standard parent response I believe. It was so bad infact that she kept talking for 5-10 minutes and wouldn't allow me to get a word in edge wise, and didnt call for 3 days to apologize (though she eventally did) Dad was a bit more reasonable - but maybe dads are just to calm the mom down because they gotta sleep with them at night. Thats the scoop for now.



Wolfala
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2004, 03:20:30 PM »
Ironically enough you are going to be getting into Moscow just two days before me!

Hope you enjoy it as much as I plan to!

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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2004, 05:07:19 PM »
Small world eh?


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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2004, 11:44:59 AM »
Hm... Sept.13th is a Monday after my birthday, so I suspect I'll have a tremendous hangover... BTW, I live maybe 25 minutes by minivan from Sheremetyevo, 5min on foot from the nearest underground station.

Hotel Ukraina - it's great! One of the seven Stalin's skyscrapers...

Hotel Orlenok? I work at Kosygin st. 4, it's just one bus stop from my work :)

I hope to meet you at Sheremetyevo on Sept, 13th if you don't have transportation pre-arranged. Those airport taxi drivers usually skin foreigners. They can ask you something like $50 or even more, especially if you go to Ukraina hotel. It's wiser to take a minivan to Moscow and then catch a cab to a hotel, will be no more then $6.

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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2004, 12:16:31 PM »
Alright - 1065773 here. I knew i'd be getting screwed for a taxi but had no idea how badly - good to know these things :)
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2004, 03:47:52 PM »
say yo'b tvoyu matti to everybody(it's a greeting), and call every girl 'curva', which means miss