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Offline Ichabod

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« Reply #165 on: May 25, 2005, 09:21:57 AM »
Been playin since original AW on AOL when it was free.

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« Reply #166 on: May 25, 2005, 12:14:47 PM »
Same here.  Air Warrior free on AOL...the OLD days.

Flew with Iron Eagles, and then the WarHawks.

I have always been...


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« Reply #167 on: May 25, 2005, 06:13:53 PM »
Remember when you had to Pay to PLay AW on AOL. I remember getting a 150 dollar bill from AOL on my credit card. It wasn't pay to play it was just Pay to be on AOHELL. I remember when AOL went unlimited would take me an Hour just to log onto AOHELL. Then another 20 min to AW. Lost a Joystick after a DISCO:D



Ahhh  the Bad old days.



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PS First CPID in AW was Irish Was in a Squad called Blackbirds then went to Crims  < King Crimson >:aok
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« Reply #168 on: May 25, 2005, 06:25:39 PM »
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Originally posted by crims
Remember when you had to Pay to PLay AW on AOL. I remember getting a 150 dollar bill from AOL on my credit card. It wasn't pay to play it was just Pay to be on AOHELL. I remember when AOL went unlimited would take me an Hour just to log onto AOHELL. Then another 20 min to AW. Lost a Joystick after a DISCO:D



Ahhh  the Bad old days.



Crims

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PS First CPID in AW was Irish Was in a Squad called Blackbirds then went to Crims  < King Crimson >:aok


150 was your worst? :)  I remember the $300 bill showing up one month and having to explain that one.  I know other guys were worse then that :)

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Offline Ichabod

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« Reply #169 on: May 25, 2005, 07:42:49 PM »
LOL My $726.00 one was the one that almost got me a divorce LOL!!


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« Reply #170 on: May 25, 2005, 08:03:26 PM »
Yeah yeah yeah I ended up here to lol. Took 5 or 6 yrs off and now I am in AH2 still knocking of some of the rust, hi  all :(

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« Reply #171 on: May 25, 2005, 11:16:06 PM »
It makes me feel old to talk about this, but then, I am old.  :-)  I flew Air Warrior on the first campaign ever, along with Dok Gonzo and several others whose names I would recall if I looked at some of the old score files.   I still have them saved on floppy disks somewhere.  I remember a lot of names, but don't remember who all was there on the very first campaign right now except the two of us.

Those were the days of the Amiga and Mac and Atari ST.  PC's couldn't cut it yet.  I started playing on an Amiga 1000 with 256K, not M, but K of memory, and booting from floppy disk.  I logged in on one of the first nights of Air Warrior existence using a 1200 baud modem on the GEnie network, paying $6.00/hour.  The Internet was just a twinkle in Al Gore's eyes at that time.  The handle I picked came from a combination of Air Warrior and Amiga merged together to form Airmigan.

Accurate flight modeling was not a reality.  I remember very clearly taking a P-38 into a vertical climb, running out of upward momentum,  and falling backwards, tail first, firing the laser guns at the target above me.  Bullets didn't fall with gravity.  They went in a straight line.

I heard some of you talk about big bills.  I don't know what the record was for the largest monthly bill, but I do recall a couple over $1000.00 that I paid.  I was rolling in money back then and it was excessive I know, but I enjoyed every dime of it.

GEnie was $6.00/hour for non-primetime, i.e. 5:00 PM to 8:00 AM and $12.00/hour during primetime.  I remember logging quite a few primetime hours but most of the time I would try to get home from work at 4:30 PM or so and get set up so I was dialing GEnie at 4:59:45 PM and would connect just as the rate changed to non-primetime.  Now THAT was addiction.

We flew at half-time.  That means everyting took twice as long to happen.  If you were flying at 250 knots, you were actually not going somewhere at that rate of speed but half of it.  I think it was because the modems couldn't keep us updated at full-speed enough to make it playable.  It was quite some time before technology advanced and Kesmai ever offered a full-time arena, and it quickly became very popular.

I have to give credit to the father of Air Warrior, Kelton Flynn.  He founded Kesmai and wrote the first versions of Air Warrior.  Even though it was crude, there was nothing like it anywhere, and for a WWII warbird buff like me and several others, it was pure heaven.  He had a hell of a job to do, running the company, writing code for the next version, and putting up with the shenanigans that went on in the game.  I remember he would get quite flustered when people didn't play the game like it was intended and used loopholes to "cheat".  My hat is off to him for starting it all rolling.

I could go on for hours here but I've already written a tome.  And I know I've forgotten probably more than I can remember.  Dok has a lot better memory than I do and when we finally met several years later at a Houston convention, we sat and talked a while and several times he would make me say, "Oh yeah, I remember that."  I enjoyed those conventions thoroughly, hashing the past with guys I'd flown with for months or years and finally meeting them face to face.  I hope to make the next  Aces High convention in Dallas and seeing some of my old buds again.  Whether I do or not, I will never forget the experiences of my tour of duty in Air Warrior.  It was one of the best times of my life.

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« Reply #172 on: May 26, 2005, 09:59:42 PM »
>>I could go on for hours here but I've already written a tome. And I know I've forgotten probably more than I can remember.<<

Airmigan:
Hell man, I wish you would :) I have known of you and Dok ever since I started AW years ago, but well after you guys were active; I began offline with the box version of AW dos, then finally went online in AW4W. By that time you original hands had gone away, with the exception of a very few of you. I joined up with the Cactus AirForce, a squad formed in the waning days of genie. Hehe, I saved some bucks :) I flew outta Delphi and paid 2 bucks an hour. The wife put the kibosh on that as my bills reached 300 bucks in one month. Then Delphi went with a monthly rate to keep customers because of AOL.
And so on etc. One of my squadmates (Bullethead) told us of the exploits of you guys, and the newer guys our squad felt as if we missed something :)
I am glad to have seen your type in here, I have been wondering what happened to most of you guys. I am glad to know that you are well, and still interested. I have had an interest in things WW2, and WW1 since I was a small boy, and am glad to know there are more out there like me.
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« Reply #173 on: May 26, 2005, 11:20:57 PM »
OK, here's some old names here. I believe this was from camp two. I started around Nov/Dec '87, IIRC.

Teams as of 13:07EST  03/03/88
  Score   Team    Name
 1063520  5940 The Bastard Squad
  876908  6437 Flying Circus
  319891  5592 SPIT'n'FIRE!
   66915   765 Squadron 765
   51970  1774 The MOD SQUAD
   42822  5327 Squadron 5327
   27622  4220 Cutters 4220
   23917  4433 Spanky's Raiders
    9546   373 Black Sheep
    8938  1188 Squad 1!
    4458   933 Birds of Prey
    2503  4586 Squadron 4586
    1408  3750 Flak Bait
     850  3276 Squadron 3276
     846  5738 Top Gunners
      43  4823 Squadron 4823
       6  4726 Squadron 4726
       5  4624 Squadron 4624
       5   683 Squadron 683
Aces as of 13:04EST  03/03/88
Rank   Kills  Country  Ship    Handle
   1       20    A      523 RamBone
   2       18    A     4064 Airmigan
   3       18    C     3741 Cap'n Trips
   4       18    C     1176 NICK BIGROD
   5       17    B     6437 Group Captain Biggles FC
   6       16    A     4803 Pan
   7       15    B     5717 ShoeString FC
   8       15    A      715 715
   9       12    B     3584 Wolf
  10       11    C     4967 Nester
  11       10    B     6918 Baron Von
  12       10    B     6443 -Pax-
  13       10    C     6000 The Major
  14       10    C     4692 =MAX=
  15       10    A     4495 LongHorn <---lil ole me
  16       10    C     4278 TEBear
  17       10    A     2111 BUDMAN
  18       10    B     1442 Lt. Zeque FC
  19        9    B     3881 Spahzz
  20        9    B     3799 TANGO CIRCUS
  21        9    C     2515 Y-Death
  22        8    C     6730 Reginald
  23        8    C     5940 Doktor Gonzo
  24        8    A     5568 spook
  25        8    C     5184 Veg-O-Matic
  26        8    B     4068 Lt. ROOKIE
  27        8    C     2169 SSR
  28        8    A       70 JWJr
  29        7    A     5875 Falcon
  30        7    C     5186 Flush Garden
  31        7    A     4855 PLASMA
  32        7    B     3619 Uno
  33        7    A     3400 Quagmire
  34        7    C     1817 Flying "V"
  35        6    B     6737 Maj. Rookie FC
  36        6    B     6335 Skipper
  37        6    A     4686 Boomslang
  38        6    A     3914 RENEGADE
  39        6    B      292 Ridge Runner FC
  40        6    C        4 Glideslope
  41        5    A     5904 Texas
  42        5    A     5327 Tex
  43        5    B     5151 skymaster FC
  44        5    B     3046 Lord Kalvan
  45        5    B     2820 Random
  46        5    A     2133 Eddie
  47        5    A      765 DB
  48        4    A     6986 Laz
  49        4    A     6667 Last Dance
  50        4    B     5742 CRUSHER
  51        4    A     5592 Squad Leader Timo
  52        4    A     5466 intruder
  53        4    B     4248 Trinity
  54        4    C     4121 BONES
  55        4    A     3382 dah
  56        4    A     2351 Ajax
  57        4    C     1774 Spaceman Spiff FC
  58        4    C     1735 Panama Jon
  59        4    B     1682 Pvt Hugmuk
  60        4    A      262 Hoser
  61        4    C      254 Death
  62        3    B     6854 MG.BLADE
  63        3    B     6783 mutton
  64        3    B     6756 BARNEY
  65        3    B     6434 Sakai
  66        3    C     6431 Lord Baltimore
  67        3    B     6185 Purple Worm
  68        3    B     6119 Capt. Kirk
  69        3    A     5748 GS
  70        3    B     5716 butch
  71        3    A     4531 THOTH
  72        3    B     4458 OLD SMOKEY FC
  73        3    B     4194 Sidewinder
  74        3    A     4082 BULLIT
  75        3    A     3966 Auger
  76        3    A     3668 Clark Kent
  77        3    B     3237 Petie II FC
  78        3    B     2842 Sky Diver
  79        3    A     2654 Split-S
  80        3    A     2371 gdp
  81        3    B     2362 LT-5
  82        3    A     2094 Lambda
  83        3    C     1755 Glutton
  84        3    B     1301 Baron Von Richthofen
  85        3    B      840 GRIMM REAPER  FC
  86        3    C      689 Ice Man
  87        3    C      599 Lord Bill
  88        3    C      487 Dr.Smith
  89        3    B       19 Techrat
  90        2    B     6743 ROD
  91        2    C     6282 Riddler
  92        2    A     6192 lazer
  93        2    C     6096 Voyger
  94        2    C     5760 Flash2
  95        2    A     5682 Gunner
  96        2    A     5542 G.P. SUYA
  97        2    C     5480 RAF
  98        2    A     5361 Runnin Scared
  99        2    A     5007 Illwind
 100        2    C     4959 Dr. Rocket
 101        2    A     4808 Red Fox
 102        2    A     4744 Coyote
 103        2    B     4730 -=>ZardoZ<=-
 104        2    B     4695 Madd Maxx
 105        2    B     4664 Lt. Ryder FC
 106        2    B     4433 Spanky
 107        2    A     4220 =Col.Slicer=
 108        2    A     4197 Alex Smart
 109        2    A     4157 Sky Pilot
 110        2    A     4142 NightBird
 111        2    A     4127 Smilin' Jack
 112        2    A     4059 Capt. Cook
 113        2    A     4037 Rowdy Yates
 114        2    C     4000 Scout
 115        2    B     3724 TIGER
 116        2    B     3630 firefox
 117        2    C     3508 -=MN=-
 118        2    B     3433 DeathWind
 119        2    C     3408 D. in Flames
 120        2    A     3319 Killing Machine
 121        2    B     3131 King Corum
 122        2    C     3066 THUNDERCLOUD
 123        2    A     2982 Wiseblood
 124        2    A     2851 Parsifal
 125        2    A     2815 Sparky
 126        2    B     2739 Crash Jockey
 127        2    A     2722 Bader
 128        2    A     2662 ScottsMan
 129        2    A     2383 Galland
 130        2    A     2279 SpLiTiNfInItY
 131        2    A     2150 Capt Bodi
 132        2    C     2146 Pyroforex
 133        2    C     2017 Apache
 134        2    B     1910 Admiral Zen
 135        2    A     1898 buzzard bait
 136        2    A     1879 TEMPEST
 137        2    C     1838 Barfly
 138        2    A     1773 PROJO
 139        2    A     1651 Pappy
 140        2    C     1623 Veet Voojagig
 141        2    B     1126 mackrel
 142        2    A      933 FalconScream
 143        2    B      917 =kc=
 144        2    A      796 Bader
 145        2    A      735 Blue Fox
 146        2    A      379 Raven
 147        2    A      373 Phantom
 148        2    A      126 fuzzy
 149        1    B     6798 Cap ZardoZ
 150        1    B     6692 mad dog
 151        1    B     6657 epman
 152        1    A     6608 Maverick
 153        1    A     6592 Photeus
 154        1    A     6285 Roland THT Gunner
 155        1    A     6124 TAG
 156        1    A     6101
 157        1    C     6046 Gabby
 158        1    A     5960 Snoopy
 159        1    A     5923 snort
 160        1    B     5770 One Eye
 161        1    C     5738 Top Gun
 162        1    C     5571 RedWing
 163        1    B     5502 zZANMAN
 164        1    B     5420 Time Pilot
 165        1    C     5384 Flying Fish
 166        1    C     5329 Roarke
 167        1    B     5310 rookie
 168        1    B     5208 sled
 169        1    A     5126 Mousetang
 170        1    C     5003 Jester
 171        1    B     4703 Cpt. Chaos
 172        1    A     4586 Nightrider
 173        1    B     4548 Blue Max
 174        1    B     4530 Lt. Sabre
 175        1    C     4517 AirWolf
 176        1    B     4502 Falcon
 177        1    B     4468 Maverick
 178        1    A     4463 Cap'n D
 179        1    A     4429
 180        1    A     4319 mAce
 181        1    C     4303 NightFly
 182        1    A     4261 AirRunner
 183        1    B     4241 Big Red
 184        1    C     4226 Wingnut
 185        1    B     4134 Tango Mike
 186        1    B     4084 Photeus
 187        1    A     4012 Mike
 188        1    C     3971 the FLY
 189        1    B     3961 bit
 190        1    C     3931 Spider
 191        1    B     3879 Viper
 192        1    A     3838 Mephistopheles
 193        1    B     3750 CHIBOY
 194        1    B     3735 Cpt Screamer
 195        1    B     3716 harp
 196        1    B     3665 Crimson
 197        1    A     3593 Black Ace
 198        1    A     3573 Scratch
 199        1    B     3517 Lancer
 200        1    B     3388 Biv
 201        1    C     3255 Bomber Jockey
 202        1    B     3171 Tills
 203        1    C     3102 Dunner
 204        1    B     3097 "JAWS"
 205        1    A     3082 Cat's Meow
 206        1    C     3040 Bomber
 207        1    A     2891 Silverfish
 208        1    A     2882 vendar
 209        1    A     2872 Shadowdancer
 210        1    B     2733 Blackjack
 211        1    B     2667 Hotspur
 212        1    A     2601 SOB
 213        1    B     2598 CDR RIKKER
 214        1    C     2575 Red Ace
 215        1    C     2556 Roark
 216        1    B     2512 Rookie99
 217        1    A     2252 New York Ranger
 218        1    A     2179 fletch
 219        1    A     1899 Net-Dog
 220        1    C     1828 Mike
 221        1    A     1552 Max Plaxx
 222        1    B     1550 Goose
 223        1    C     1536 Mercenary
 224        1    A     1533 RED BARRON II
 225        1    C     1522 Lone Fighter
 226        1    B     1400 Big Veidle
 227        1    A     1361 Interceptor
 228        1    A     1199 tracer
 229        1    C     1188 Matt Coffman
 230        1    B     1166 Joker
 231        1    A      999 Baron
 232        1    A      985 Ryan
 233        1    B      981 Dr. Fuzz
 234        1    A      980 THE SCOURGE!!!
 235        1    B      812 The Kid
 236        1    C      774 SATURN

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« Reply #174 on: May 27, 2005, 11:38:40 AM »
Remember the Alamo!

AW had a nice chivalric flavor ... it also was only place you could have a memorial fly over for a member in the main arena   … ahh the good ole days.


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BTW - kid and zippy had the only 2 man squad to ever make it to the top 10.

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« Reply #175 on: May 27, 2005, 12:02:54 PM »
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94??? Damn, Carl, you had to be all of what, 12 years old? :)

culero (no wonder, NOW it makes sense!)


13. :) Dad finally got access at home and I didn't realise he was paying per hour for it.  Dad didn't leave account info stickied to the computer after that. :)

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« Reply #176 on: May 27, 2005, 10:35:14 PM »
Aye Strider.  I remember your handle and the Cactus Air Force.  You guys had a good thing going on there.  Probably still do in AH today.

I also remember you too, Longhorn.  And thanks for the scores listing.  Seeing some of those names makes neurons fire for sure.  A few things I remember about some of them.....

Cap'n Trips - One of  Dok's buds and a good pilot.

Group Captain Biggles - One of Dok's enemies.  He died several months after Air Warrior started.  He was a good organizer and formed the first squadron I ever became a member of, The Flying Circus.

Pan - damn good pilot

715 - Hehe, that guy never had another handle.  Always used his ship number.  Was a good 51 pilot.

Budman - another good pilot

Tango Circus - Perhaps the best pilot in the early game.  I swear he had to be cheating to do some of the things he could do.  :-)

Doktor Gonzo - do I nead to say anything?  :-)  Leader of the Bastard Squad and a great pilot.  He shot me down quite a few times.  I liked to tangle down low and he had a knack for killing me when I would run out of ammo and be limping back home.   He was like a hawk.  Sat up there and waited for something to swoop down on.  :-)  That wasn't the only way he could kill me, mind you.  It's just that he did a lot.

Flush Garden - a great pilot in the game and a real pilot otherwise.  He was another of Dok's buds and was good at lurking around and taking advantage of situations when he saw them.  If I remember correctly, he got under Kesmai's skin a time too many and was banned for a while.

Ridge Runner - I don't think this guy ever slept.  He seemed to always be up there in his Mustang somewhere.

Lord Kalvan - that was Kelton's handle.  He didn't get to play enough to get his scores up but he was a decent pilot.  I do know he was bombarded with chat every time he flew.

Many more there I remember well but too numerous to expound on.  It was a tight little group at the beginning.  There are no points shown on those first scores, but most of those people rarely flew.  There were, I'd guess, about 30 regulars that were on frequenly in the early campaigns and you got to know each other pretty well.  

I remember it was kind of disheartening later on when the AOL thing happened and the game was bombarded with new people.  It kind of lost the closeness we had earlier.  Not complaining, mind ya.  It's good that it was opened up to more people, but we all knew it would never be the same again.  That's when I started losing interest in it.  I think I enjoyed the close camraderie almost as much as the flying, and it was near impossible to achieve that with the heavily populated arenas.

Enough for now.

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« Reply #177 on: May 27, 2005, 10:53:06 PM »
Horn,
was that was list of people from Gamestorm AW? or AOL.  I have noticed some don't make the distinction here, but there was a huge one.
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« Reply #178 on: May 27, 2005, 11:06:52 PM »
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Horn,
was that was list of people from Gamestorm AW? or AOL.  I have noticed some don't make the distinction here, but there was a huge one.



notice the date:
Teams as of 13:07EST 03/03/88


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« Reply #179 on: May 28, 2005, 12:28:10 AM »
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notice the date:
Teams as of 13:07EST 03/03/88


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eek  good catch.  (smacks self on back of head DUH!)
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