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Offline PK1Mw

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« Reply #750 on: August 16, 2007, 11:12:53 AM »
DOODY been MIA for quite some time now. He's been back, and prolly is back now, and people just don't know it.

I took over -=Most Wanted=- 3 years ago, and kept it going ever since.

You should definitely come to AH, you'd be surprised at all the people here. Just a portion of the people who actually flies AH2, actually comes to the boards, and an even smaller number of people from AW comes here. I don't know if you've been there yet or not, but go to http://www.airwarrioronline.com Murdr and FedEx doing a great job keepin some of the AW community together over there on those forums.

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« Reply #751 on: August 16, 2007, 11:09:23 PM »
I flew as "shamrock," under various PID's (only one I remember for sure is #1017) starting way back in 1993.

Before discovering Air Warrior (1.13 DOS I think), I thought I was the baddest stick around because I had mastered Aces over The Pacific and Falcon3.0 offline (complete dweeb).  Boy was I in for a rude awakening...

First played AW in University against locals on modem, then figured out how to use IHHD with my shell account (thank you, Redbeard - that piece of software is totally forgotten, but let me tell you, it's one of the most wonderful hacks in gaming history, and for any of you out there that don't know what it was, hang your heads in shame :-))

Using IHHD, I joined the Air Warrior Internet Dueling Ladder and got to go against many legends from the old days (Gary Church, Moggy, Redbeard, Rocketman etc. etc.) and got my bellybutton royally handed to me - but I persevered and eventually got the #5 spot.

Eventually, I joined the legendary AW OZhost - flew there for "free" (minus the long distance charge from Canada to Australia), then finally earned enough cash to have a Concentric/Genie/AOL account (can't remember the order, but I remember paying between $2 and $6/hour).

In those days, I remember sitting down for 12 hours at a time to play - it was total addiction.

Always flew A Land - had sympathy for C land (despite their Sheep Shagging Ways) and always hated B Land with a passion (they were the best sticks, so I wanted to fight them to learn)

Flew with the 613 aka 417 squadron of old, then when 1995 rolled around, I quit it all to beta test a new exciting game called Confirmed Kill - which became the pay-for-play game known as Warbirds (father of Aces High).  Flew Warbirds as "sham, -sham-, --is--, --is and even is--" (so far as I remember).  Flew purple for the most part - gold, for a few months.

Quit around 1999 and played AH1 for a little bit - then quit that and came back to AH2 about 3 years ago - been flying ever since as "sham", RTshamrk, BGshamrk, punchy, mafiosi and finally shamroc.

The old DOS Airwarrior was an incredible experience - today, a full 14 years later, I can say with confidence that I'm an ok stick - and that just about everything I learned, I learned in Air Warrior - from getting my butt handed to me regularly by guys like Rocketman (master, and possible originator of the Rope-A-Dope technique that he did so well in his "barge" (aka P-38)).

Yeah I got better and smoother as time went on - but I think I learned "all the moves" I know today playing Air Warrior and reading Shaw.

Amazing how every single AW player knew about the Shaw book (bible of air combat), and today, very few AH players know what it is...

All Airwarrior pilots were good sticks.  Why ?  Well, the graphics SUCKED - so the actual combat largely took place in your imagination (only someone who flew in that era can understand that statement).  

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdKJUJXAtUM (made this video for you newbs out there)

If you were not a deep thinker (with deep pockets!), Air Warrior was not the game for you.

The camaraderie of Air Warrior was incredible... I guess it had to do with the fact that the Internet was so new... and everyone was innocent - it was a small world - nobody feared putting out personal info or anything...  I remember when I was in the 417 squadron, we had a meet and greet, and people flew in from all over Canada (coast to coast) to attend - you'd NEVER see that today - back then, it was like we were all hackers or something - messing around with something that the average person didn't understand.

So to all the oldtime Airwarrior Vets - a BIG BIG BIG to you all !!!!!!

We made history, brothers !

Shamroc

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« Reply #752 on: August 16, 2007, 11:41:03 PM »
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Hey, I was curious if anyone here is an old hand from the AirWarrior-AirWarrior 3D days? I was hoping someone with a sense of nostalgia would revive AW3 some day, but I don't think it will happen. I would like to get in touch with some people from the old days if there are any in here and possibly start flying again. So if you used to play AW3 please reply and let me know your old AW cpid and squadron.

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« Reply #753 on: August 22, 2007, 02:01:40 PM »
Wow...this whole thread makes me feel ancient as most of you puppies talk about "way back on AOL in 96". I was GEnie late 93 and went by Rave 3353. I don't see any of my old ::IAF:: crew or other friends around anymore - Tomcat 4717, Hidalgo 4219, Propwash 6008, Slayer 2917, Ramdog 2268, Hebee 3424, IconoClast 937...forget it, here's a list back when IAF, JG54 and BS ruled the Az, Bz, and Cz...

When a game stays with this many people for this long a timeframe, then something was truly special about it - besides being the first.

FINAL SCORES - AIR WARRIOR

CAMPAIGN 102 - December 10, 1993 - January 7, 1994


Arena 1 Individual Scores:

Fighter Scores as of Fri Jan  7 14:35:55 1994
Rank   Score  Country  Ship  Handle                  Mail
   1   601745    B     4233 Greycap      JG 54       R.STATHAM
   2   578797    A     6540 ^ZYfly^ -AW-             R.FULTON2
   3   489117    A     3988 Splash ::IAF::           M.MCGOWEN
   4   478008    B     3488 Phantom      JG 54       G.SMITH14
   5   402224    C      565 Tarkus SL/FL-I **BS**    M.SPENCER3
   6   359863    A     4717 TOMCAT ::IAF::           T.BIFULCO
   7   359835    A     3822 +-}--Hell-----*XO*       S.SARKISIAN1
   8   350662    B     3422 Doom         JG 54       M.HOBUSS
   9   305829    A      937 IconoClast               S.FORBEN
  10   272530    C     4989 ToMMnatr>FUBAR XO<       T.CHRISTIE1
  11   227445    B     5769 Shark        JG 54       L.RABURN
  12   214049    C     4419 Rasta CO Black Sheep     C.MENDOZA
  13   207039    A     3353 Rave       ::IAF::       R.DURHAM
  14   203708    B     4276 COLORADO     JG 54       D.WILLIAMS4
  15   201549    A     4219 Hidalgo ::IAF::          R.CAVOLA
  16   185342    B     3683 Proteous     JG 54       D.VANDERWAL1
  17   179743    B     5826 Joker -UFO- BL           J.SAMACICIA
  18   173010    B     4243 BADER                    M.FALLON1
  19   168083    B     6422 maque                    G.MACDONALD7
  20   161005    A     2268 RamDog   *XO* JG26       P.HARGETT
  21   155554    B     6064 Rip          JG 54       T.BURMEISTER
  22   153263    C     6008 PropWash L/FL-B **BS**   R.SIMPSON11
  23   137309    B     5017 Gator        JG 54       J.KIMMERLY1
  24   137022    B     2819 Der Bubba    JG 54       J.KENNEDY15
  25   130264    A     5842 +-}--PRIMATE-------      M.MCMANUS1
  26   125880    C     5545 Buzzard                  F.GOSS
  27   124198    B     6687 Submission -UFO- A       G.SIEVERS
  28   123544    C     4781 BigJim LtCol FL-C**BS**  J.HARRISON32
  29   119921    A     6609 +-}--ATHOS------         VALHALLA
  30   113805    C     3843 Sabre                    R.TIMBLIN1
  31   113030    A     1347 Jester  ::IAF::          J.KLAGES
  32   109814    A     6085 Bingo ::IAF::            D.RICHMOND
  33   108788    B     6032 Sandman - {USAAC}        H.BILLINGSLE
  34   108624    A     4374 EQ Kimball ::IAF::       WOODJR1
  35   106854    C     4785 Jackpot FL-E **BS**      T.HOLT6
  36   106502    C      133 Fun L/FL-F **BS**        T.THEMCCORMI
  37   106150    B     5605 Bullseye -UFO- A         P.JOHNSON8
  38   101515    A     5547 MARS ::IAF::             R.KIM1
  39    99040    C      643 Tako     = Regia 26 =    B.TAKAKUWA
  40    95028    B     4958 Rodvik       JG 54       J.SANCHEZ4
  41    94834    B     5279 Toad *PS*                J.NOLAN1
  42    93639    A     4485 LA Kimball ::IAF::       W.WOOD3
  43    92401    A     6030 AFISH                    H.FISH
  44    91605    B     5583 ElTIGRE' -UFO- D         G.FARROW
  45    88234    B     5910 Necromancer  JG 54       A.STATHAM
  46    88124    C     3431 Catfish                  J.ANDERSON1
  47    87566    B     2917 Slayer >JG-53<           M.DANEY
  48    86807    A     4180 Bluefish ::IAF::         J.BELCHER3
  49    86731    B     1098 ZePolar Bear JG 54       S.KLEINSTEUB
  50    84490    B     5640 Draco                    M.SICES

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« Reply #754 on: August 22, 2007, 02:11:46 PM »
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Wow...this whole thread makes me feel ancient as most of you puppies talk about "way back on AOL in 96". I was GEnie late 93 and went by Rave 3353. I don't see any of my old ::IAF:: crew or other friends around anymore - Tomcat 4717, Hidalgo 4219, Propwash 6008, Slayer 2917, Ramdog 2268, Hebee 3424, IconoClast 937...forget it, here's a list back when IAF, JG54 and BS ruled the Az, Bz, and Cz...

When a game stays with this many people for this long a timeframe, then something was truly special about it - besides being the first.

FINAL SCORES - AIR WARRIOR

CAMPAIGN 102 - December 10, 1993 - January 7, 1994


Arena 1 Individual Scores:

Fighter Scores as of Fri Jan  7 14:35:55 1994
Rank   Score  Country  Ship  Handle                  Mail
   1   601745    B     4233 Greycap      JG 54       R.STATHAM
   2   578797    A     6540 ^ZYfly^ -AW-             R.FULTON2
   3   489117    A     3988 Splash ::IAF::           M.MCGOWEN
   4   478008    B     3488 Phantom      JG 54       G.SMITH14
   5   402224    C      565 Tarkus SL/FL-I **BS**    M.SPENCER3
   6   359863    A     4717 TOMCAT ::IAF::           T.BIFULCO
   7   359835    A     3822 +-}--Hell-----*XO*       S.SARKISIAN1
   8   350662    B     3422 Doom         JG 54       M.HOBUSS
   9   305829    A      937 IconoClast               S.FORBEN
  10   272530    C     4989 ToMMnatr>FUBAR XO<       T.CHRISTIE1
  11   227445    B     5769 Shark        JG 54       L.RABURN
  12   214049    C     4419 Rasta CO Black Sheep     C.MENDOZA
  13   207039    A     3353 Rave       ::IAF::       R.DURHAM
  14   203708    B     4276 COLORADO     JG 54       D.WILLIAMS4
  15   201549    A     4219 Hidalgo ::IAF::          R.CAVOLA
  16   185342    B     3683 Proteous     JG 54       D.VANDERWAL1
  17   179743    B     5826 Joker -UFO- BL           J.SAMACICIA
  18   173010    B     4243 BADER                    M.FALLON1
  19   168083    B     6422 maque                    G.MACDONALD7
  20   161005    A     2268 RamDog   *XO* JG26       P.HARGETT
  21   155554    B     6064 Rip          JG 54       T.BURMEISTER
  22   153263    C     6008 PropWash L/FL-B **BS**   R.SIMPSON11
  23   137309    B     5017 Gator        JG 54       J.KIMMERLY1
  24   137022    B     2819 Der Bubba    JG 54       J.KENNEDY15
  25   130264    A     5842 +-}--PRIMATE-------      M.MCMANUS1
  26   125880    C     5545 Buzzard                  F.GOSS
  27   124198    B     6687 Submission -UFO- A       G.SIEVERS
  28   123544    C     4781 BigJim LtCol FL-C**BS**  J.HARRISON32
  29   119921    A     6609 +-}--ATHOS------         VALHALLA
  30   113805    C     3843 Sabre                    R.TIMBLIN1
  31   113030    A     1347 Jester  ::IAF::          J.KLAGES
  32   109814    A     6085 Bingo ::IAF::            D.RICHMOND
  33   108788    B     6032 Sandman - {USAAC}        H.BILLINGSLE
  34   108624    A     4374 EQ Kimball ::IAF::       WOODJR1
  35   106854    C     4785 Jackpot FL-E **BS**      T.HOLT6
  36   106502    C      133 Fun L/FL-F **BS**        T.THEMCCORMI
  37   106150    B     5605 Bullseye -UFO- A         P.JOHNSON8
  38   101515    A     5547 MARS ::IAF::             R.KIM1
  39    99040    C      643 Tako     = Regia 26 =    B.TAKAKUWA
  40    95028    B     4958 Rodvik       JG 54       J.SANCHEZ4
  41    94834    B     5279 Toad *PS*                J.NOLAN1
  42    93639    A     4485 LA Kimball ::IAF::       W.WOOD3
  43    92401    A     6030 AFISH                    H.FISH
  44    91605    B     5583 ElTIGRE' -UFO- D         G.FARROW
  45    88234    B     5910 Necromancer  JG 54       A.STATHAM
  46    88124    C     3431 Catfish                  J.ANDERSON1
  47    87566    B     2917 Slayer >JG-53<           M.DANEY
  48    86807    A     4180 Bluefish ::IAF::         J.BELCHER3
  49    86731    B     1098 ZePolar Bear JG 54       S.KLEINSTEUB
  50    84490    B     5640 Draco                    M.SICES



     Right off the bat I recognize Joker ,
Toad .  Buzzard unfortunately passed away a
few years ago.

     Alot of memories in that list..good ones.

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« Reply #755 on: August 22, 2007, 03:05:21 PM »
Two names that stood out for me were Helldweeb and Doomy. Geez, the crap they caught...and totally deserved. :D
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« Reply #756 on: August 22, 2007, 07:10:54 PM »
Well to be fair, half the guys on that list were my squaddies NB :)
I see Subbie made it in as well..and I miss Mars, he was fun, as were
most of the IAF guys..good times indeed.
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« Reply #757 on: December 13, 2007, 01:33:27 PM »
I flew as Mayda in AW on AOL as part of the Ironmen and the Misfits.
My wife was *PUFF and flew as a Misfit as well.

I was an insane AW classic addict.  Since AOL turfed AW I have been completey online flight sim free.  I faced my addiction, and triumphed!!
Unfortunatly, I made the mistake of surfing wikipedia today, and decided to look up Air Warrior the see if there was a writ-up...indeed there was, along with a link to Aces High which lead me here.

I've live the past 10 years of my life not knowing there is a far superior MMOFS out there...So here I am...stuck at work for another 4hrs before I can rush home, d/l this game and take the the skies again.  Good god this is torture!!  My hands are shaking, I've broken out into a cold sweat and I am one again craving to read the words "A kill has been recorded"

Anywho...Christmas came early this year...cya in the skies soon!

I hope to run into my old squadies....and dearly departed foes again!

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« Reply #758 on: December 13, 2007, 01:40:36 PM »
you won't be disappointed mayday.

Be warned now, it isn't too late yet to forget the wiki entry and the fact you found this website.

If you erase it from your memory you may still triumph!  

Check out the soundpacks and the hi-res download if your computer is up to it.  

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« Reply #759 on: December 13, 2007, 02:39:57 PM »
Yeah, it's hard to believe that in the Genie Air Warrior days, connect time to the game was $6 an hour. For that princely sum, you got 8-bit graphics, flat terrain, and a cloudless sky at a blistering 1200 baud via dial-up. Monthly bills were heart stopping.

Compared to that, what we have now is amazing :)

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« Reply #760 on: December 14, 2007, 02:19:29 PM »
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you won't be disappointed mayday.

Be warned now, it isn't too late yet to forget the wiki entry and the fact you found this website.

If you erase it from your memory you may still triumph!  

Check out the soundpacks and the hi-res download if your computer is up to it.  

Bruv
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Wow..You are right, I wasn't disapointed!
I've got a lot to learn though, or "Unlearn" as it seems.  I played it safe for my first night.  Spend a while in the training area just to learn the controls, set the views etc etc, then moved into an arena to see if I still have the jam.
I took a pony for a ride, I figured that's the safe bet.  If your riden one pony, you've ridden them all.  Get high, stay fast and dont turn...
First mission I took 25% fuel, climbed to 30k and chucked it around up their flying over the water practicing keeping the sun in my view as I manouver, and hoping to catch a stray making a bomb run against an outpost airfield...no dice, but I did get some practice using my views.  Apparently 25% fuel aint what it used to be, as I ran out sooner then expected and ended up coasting back to land and ditching in some farmers field (serious lack of famers daughters though...maybe the next patch??)

Next mission I made a point of heading to a more populated area.   Took more fuel, climbed high and dove onto a b17 being attack...came in too fast and almost blacked out, but I got close and took a 300ft shot with 30degree dflection  and hit him pretty good in the right wing.  before soaring high.  He was finnished off before I could make a 2nd pass...with an assist being claimed.  Climbed up to 20k when I noticed 2 47's heading to one of my airfields.  I had a 5k height advantage, and more importantly they were acting like I wasn't there.  They must of been chatting with each other or something, as I positioned right above, split s'ed and dove in behind them.   Travelling 500+ with the air frame shaking and took a passing shot at 47 #1, blasted past and continued speeding after #2.  On the verge of black out, I unloaded on poor #2 from about 800 out and flew right up his 6.  He wasn't going to live regardless, but my 500mph battering ram sent him to his grave twice over.  I lost a wing, and figured out how to bail out, but my chute never opened...don't worry about sending out the locals to look for me...So this game has collisions?  I'll lock that tidbit of knowledge someplace handy....
I got credit for 2 kills and 1 assist on the mission...I musta got 47# 1, but I didn't think I hit him...I am not going to argue!
Mission #3, Climbed to 25k and headed to the busiest place on the map I could find.  Ran into a spit and a Nik (WTH is that?  Never heard of it and didn't know if it was a bomber or a fighter) 5k below.  B&Zed them for a bit, but my timing is WAY off....4 passes, and I used my guns twice.  Kept coming in behind the bandits, and I was unwilling to turn to tight to correct and bleed of my E (escpecially cause I didnt know what the keck a NIK is) So I harrassed them for a bit, but was uncomfortable with being out numbered 2-1 being so green.  So I disengaged while I still had my "E" advantage.  I saw a friendly to the north about 3 k up, so I thought I'd drag my friends over to him.  Dumb dumb...he was a buff driver and I just sicked my two foes on him...(How do you tell what planes your teamates are driving before you get a visual?)  So I had to reengage.  Fortunatly the buff was high enough that the nme had problems chasing him.  I turned around and made my existance known.  They werent too comfortable with me on their tail so they left the buff and turned on me.   At equal height and "e" after I burned some turning sharp when I saw my teammate was in a bomber. The Nik came at me head on and shot me up good.  My Teammate was safe, and my goal becaue "Get out of Dodge"  I knew the Nik was going to bleed E turning to get on me, so I nosed down slightly, hit WEP and closed my eyes to make myself invisable.  I was able to disenage, and make it back to Rookland before running out of fuel (Nik musta hit my tank) and ditching in another famers field (still no daughter) with an oilstreaked canopy.
0 kills, no damage, no assist but at leat I didn't get my team mate shotdown by dragging 2 fighters to his buff.

By now the CO came downstairs on told me to get my flyboy az up to bed as it was midnight and I had to work at 6.

I'm in love....what a great game.  I got the sniff of blood in my nose that I havnt had since AW on AOL.   I cant't wait to get home tonight!!!

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« Reply #761 on: December 14, 2007, 04:00:52 PM »
Excellent, Mayday!  Glad to have more former Air Warriors here! :)

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« Reply #762 on: December 14, 2007, 05:54:37 PM »
N1K1? Slowish, turns good, 4 cannon's of death...head-on machine.




Country of origin: Japan
Crew: Single-seat
Type: Fighter/attacker
Normal loaded weight: 9040 lbs.
Dimensions: Wing span 39'4½"
Length 30'8"
Height 13'
Internal fuel: 190 gallons
Armament: 2x20 mm Type 99 Model 2 200 rpg
2x20 mm Type 99 Model 2 250 rpg
250 kg GP bomb
Drop tank

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Offline LilMak

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Any old Air Warriors out there?????
« Reply #763 on: December 15, 2007, 11:02:15 PM »
I started AW on AOL as a spit pilot. I spent my days yanking and banking my way through RR. I became pretty good and my ego got big until, one day, I ran up against a 109 jock who owned me every time we met. He could manipulate that plane like no one I had ever encountered. Still, I kept trying to beat him and would get killed repeatedly. Ever stubborn, I kept upping my pathetic little spit only to get smacked down again and again. Even with heavy alt and E advantages, he still killed me. Finally, I grabbed a 109 and thus began my trial by fire. I guess he took pity on me or just enjoyed killing this stubborn spit noob over and over. So whenever we were online together, we would have discrete duels flying 109s in obscure areas. I continued to get killed by my tormentor for weeks it seemed. But with each death I got a little better. Then, one day, I shot him down.

I spent most of my AW days as a loner. I refused to join any squad. I jumped from country to country seeking the most outnumbered teams and the biggest furballs.  I smacked down turning spitdweebs and roping PJs in my 109 of death. I was accused of hacking nightly when I would win  4 on 1s against pilots who never learned how to properly manipulate their aircraft. Occasionally I would wing with my mentor and our 109s were something to be feared and respected. I became less of a loner and started to desire the fun of flying in a group. I signed up with the AirWolves and my macros often came across the text line with things like...

"Chase the Ace."
"Aint it a shame to be shot down in flames?"
"If you want blood, You've got it!"
"Shoot to thrill! Play to kill!"
"You've been...Thunderstruck!"

Originally I was known as Mak2

But I was feared as AC/DC

Now I've found a new flight sim and the learning curve is steep. But there are two important lessons I learned from AW.

First, you're never as good as you think you are. There always is/was/or will be someone better and the only way to learn is to get your butt handed to you.

Second, online flight sims are some of the best communities around and the relationships that are built in these virtual places have a lasting impression. That's why AW and AH are great games that endure long after the latest version of Halo is forgotten and why so many people show up to message boards like this out of the wild blue yonder.

LilMak

And the never ending thread continues...
"When caught by the enemy in large force the best policy is to fight like hell until you can decide what to do next."
~Hub Zemke
P-47 pilot 56th Fighter Group.

Offline acfireguy26

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Any old Air Warriors out there?????
« Reply #764 on: December 15, 2007, 11:53:38 PM »
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Originally posted by mayday
(How do you tell what planes your teamates are driving before you get a visual?)  


Alt I to see what your comrades are flying.