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Offline 2Hawks

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Day of the Map Reset Over? (gameplay)
« on: August 31, 2004, 12:21:23 AM »
major Gameplay Issue here.

I have some very valid points to make
Hear this out. I am not normally upset by much in the game, but this one has be way frustrated.

Roster:
Bish 90 some, Knight 110, Rook, about 70 Odd.

Bish had about 120 fields or so, KNight he around 70 and Rooks about 23.

See the issue so far? Knights had more players, but were restricted in the planes they could fly, The Bish had more bases, and no restrictions, the Rook could fly anything they wanted and it was cheap to do so.

Heres my questions;

What good are perk points if you cannot fly the plane you paid for? What good is the "Balancing Effect" of ENY when it clearly does not balance the game in regard to base capture. As far as preventing capture it has done a splendid job. Has anyone noted a map reset that is NOT done by Skuzzy Every Friday? I havent been there 24/7, so my knowledge of this event is lacking.

My Suggestion;

Tie ENY to the number of fighter Hangers up at any one field. If you have only one fighter Hanger up at say A38, you can only up Fighters at A38 with a 20 ENY or greater, only 2 fighter Hangers up, 10 ENY or greater. only 3 up, 7 ENY, 4 hangers, 5 ENY. At least you would then have the option of upping from a remote field. This would fix ppl upping an LA7 at the last minute to Nail the C-47, give greater meaning to protecting your field, make dropping a Fighter Hanger have more signifigance. And not to mention, I can then use my perks.

Overall, if the obove suggestions are to hard to implement, then remove ENY or Remove Perks. Having both is self-defeating.

It's been a great Game, and I will keep flying, for now. I am sure HTC is tearing his hair out over the whines, But this is REALLY Frustrating. Frustrating Enough to call it a bug methinks.

Dan.

Offline Ohio330

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2004, 02:03:09 PM »
First of all, I fail to see any "bug" issue here, so expect to see this punted to another forum.
Secondly..your beating a dead horse

Offline dragoon

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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2004, 02:15:20 AM »
ya they aint gonna change it anytime soon thats for sure. straight from the horses mouth

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2004, 10:39:33 AM »
The guy is just voicing his opinion in a respectful manner. I'd cut him some slack you two.

Besides, the changes that limited the planeset is what? Two and a half weeks old? Far from a dead horse Ohio.

Course if you have only been around since July you have been playing with the ENY system for almost half your AH "career." Might seem like a long time i guess.

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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2004, 11:30:07 AM »
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What good are perk points if you cannot fly the plane you paid for? What good is the "Balancing Effect" of ENY when it clearly does not balance the game in regard to base capture. As far as preventing capture it has done a splendid job. Has anyone noted a map reset that is NOT done by Skuzzy Every Friday? I havent been there 24/7, so my knowledge of this event is lacking.


You use the term "paid" which means past tense. You make it sound like ... I paid for my 262 and while I was walking to the 262 hanger, they locked the doors and I can't get my money back.

If the ENY disabler says that X plane is not available "now", then you have not lost anything.

The ENY diabler was not meant to balance base captures. Base capture still relies on execution, coordination, and communication. The ENY disabler does nothing to inhibit any of the above.

Personally, I have seen the map reset at least twice without the auto map reset on Friday. Once the Bish won while the were flying under the ENY disabler (they had the numbers) and once the Knights reset.

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Tie ENY to the number of fighter Hangers up at any one field. If you have only one fighter Hanger up at say A38, you can only up Fighters at A38 with a 20 ENY or greater, only 2 fighter Hangers up, 10 ENY or greater. only 3 up, 7 ENY, 4 hangers, 5 ENY. At least you would then have the option of upping from a remote field. This would fix ppl upping an LA7 at the last minute to Nail the C-47, give greater meaning to protecting your field, make dropping a Fighter Hanger have more signifigance. And not to mention, I can then use my perks.


You have to look at this from 2 viewpoints ... Defensively and Offensivley.

Defensively:

Me and my squaddies have come to your base and have knocked down all but one FH. You want to up for defense, but all you can use are the early war machines against our late war machines.

... sound fair ? I think not. Not only do we have superior numbers (assumed due to the effort it takes to destroy FHs), we now have superior machines.

Offensively:

Me and my squaddies have just captured your base and there is only one FH up. We can only use early war planes to launch an offensive.

... sound fair ? I think so. Newly captured bases that have been destroyed, should not allow all offensive capabilities right after capture.

BUT ... if we look at them both together ... it doesn't work IMHO.

If I remember correcty, HT said he was going to make the 163 an exception to the ENY disabler and was also considering excluding the perk planes. We will just have to see what the next patch brings.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2004, 11:32:23 AM by SlapShot »
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2004, 12:30:08 PM »
You're assuming that everyone flying is an ace and a strategist.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2004, 12:44:51 PM »
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Originally posted by loser
The guy is just voicing his opinion in a respectful manner. I'd cut him some slack you two.

Besides, the changes that limited the planeset is what? Two and a half weeks old? Far from a dead horse Ohio.

Course if you have only been around since July you have been playing with the ENY system for almost half your AH "career." Might seem like a long time i guess.


     Funny how typed words can be miscontrued as a slam
against someone- I assure you I wasn't.  I was stating the obvious..that this isn't a bug report.. and secondly, I wasn't slamming him for voicing his opinion at all.  I think everyone should do so. My comment was actually more pointed at MY opinion that I think a lot of our ideas fall on deaf ears with
HTC. I believe they've already decided what they are going to
do and I don't believe they are going to change anything.
And no, I'm not yelling at you either.

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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2004, 05:38:57 PM »
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Originally posted by SlapShot

Defensively:

Me and my squaddies have come to your base and have knocked down all but one FH. You want to up for defense, but all you can use are the early war machines against our late war machines.



When I am defending a base thats under heavy attack, thats all thats really useful. Anything thats fast requires some time to accelerate to maneuver speed.  During this time of mostly straight flight your vulched.

Meanwhile, in a Zeke, N1K, Churri, 205 ,Etc.  You can out turn almost everything diving on you in a much shorter roll, dive through hangers and turn around the smoke and flames. - Quite a Blast.

You added yet another valid point to my post. Now I WOULD like to see perk rides allowed to fly despite ENY. Such was the case with Germany in the latter stages of the war with the 262, as well as with the Japanese with the KI-48.  It would also give a new reason for people who normally don't fly perk rides to spend the points.