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Offline Delirium

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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2004, 09:09:00 AM »
How many perkies do you have? I had way over 10k with my old account (before I changed names) and almost 10k already with this one.

Perks are not a balancing feature, unless HTC would reset all perks once a month.

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Anywho.. back on topic, the perks need to be exempted from the lockdown.  They already have thier own balancing act, and if a country is in lockdown then they're payin the highest prices for thier perk rides.
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2004, 09:37:12 AM »
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The ENY restriction is a penalty, a punishment to induce movement from those who will not otherwise move.


I wouldn't go so far as to call it a penalty even. The detractors like to think of it that way. Being "punished" for being fanatically loyal to a chesspiece.

I'd call it incentive. Incentive to realize the MA is a game ... not a war. And a "chesspiece" is a jersey .... not a uniform. And players will move now because of this. And if a player is not one of the ones willing to change sides to balance the arena, that player is free to be stubborn about it. Just as free as he or she is to talk thier boyfriends or girlfriends into changing sides with them. :D

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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2004, 12:48:01 PM »
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it a penalty even. The detractors like to think of it that way. Being "punished" for being fanatically loyal to a chesspiece.

I'd call it incentive. Incentive to realize the MA is a game ... not a war. And a "chesspiece" is a jersey .... not a uniform.


Well, you're not describing the MA 100% accurately.  This is a war.  The system proves that it's a war each time "The war has been won..." by a particular side, which causes the map to be reset.

Just because you have chosen not to belong to a particular country does not mean that everyone has to follow your model.

(HTC earns their money.  It isn't easy to make 3,000(?) gamers happy.)

Simaril, I'd be careful about how you throw that "complaining" word around.  And, "punishment"?  Eh.  Your outlook seems pretty strict, sir.
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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2004, 01:23:51 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2004, 01:28:04 PM »
(sarcasim)

Then you better quit your job, leave your wife/kids and give the war effort your complete attention, unless you want your Rook Commander to court-martial you.

Get real....    :rolleyes:

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Well, you're not describing the MA 100% accurately.  This is a war.
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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2004, 01:36:22 PM »
i agree with Tbolt 100% they just cant see it from our POV. and that makes them right no matter what. in other words, they are the players that are happy with it and not the ones that are peeved about it. ya might get a better turnout of only 1/4 of the peeved players responded. but they know better then to come to the BBS and post their views even though its changed in here (somewhat).:p

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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2004, 01:42:59 PM »
You misunderstand me, Dragoon. I like the ENY changes, I just disagreed with his 'this is a war' rhetoric.
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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2004, 01:58:21 PM »
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Then you better quit your job, leave your wife/kids and give the war effort your complete attention, unless you want your Rook Commander to court-martial you.

Get real....    :rolleyes:



Have you been nominated for the Best Drama Oscar award yet, Delirium?  :lol


Like I said before, HT's own system proves that this is, in fact, a war each and every time the arena is reset by a country.  Read the yellow text next time.  ;)  :D

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« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2004, 03:43:06 PM »
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Simaril, I'd be careful about how you throw that "complaining" word around.  And, "punishment"?  Eh.  Your outlook seems pretty strict, sir.


No offense intended, and surely none taken. Hyperbole for dramatic impact is both time honored and effective -- and that's all I was up to.

Although if you read through the very long thread in which HT first proposed timed delay as a way to induce country switch, you may feel (as I did) that HT's attitude wasnt far from penalty mode at the time.....








BTW, arguments based on how unfair things were when the rooks were low are pretty much irrelevant. If it hurt gamepaly then, it hurts gameplay now -- and arguing that it should be left unaddressed are little more than attempts at gentle vengeance.
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« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2004, 04:15:11 PM »
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Have you been nominated for the Best Drama Oscar award yet, Delirium?  :lol


Like I said before, HT's own system proves that this is, in fact, a war each and every time the arena is reset by a country.  Read the yellow text next time.  ;)  :D


Nope your still wrong ...

Read my sig ... its a direct quote from HT and it came about from the ENY discussion.
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« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2004, 05:13:39 PM »
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Nope your still wrong ...

Read my sig ... its a direct quote from HT and it came about from the ENY discussion.

HiTech : And please do not tell me AH is war, because it is not, it is a War game. And games are ment to be fun and fair. While war is not ment to be either fair or fun.


Well, my SINCEREST, MOST HEARTFELT response to HT would then be...

Change the SYSTEM message on reset to:
SYSTEM: Patty-cake, patty-cake was won by (insert country name here)[/size]

:rolleyes: :lol

I look forward to seeing the change soon.  :D

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« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2004, 07:14:17 PM »
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it a penalty even. The detractors like to think of it that way. Being "punished" for being fanatically loyal to a chesspiece.

I'd call it incentive. Incentive to realize the MA is a game ... not a war. And a "chesspiece" is a jersey .... not a uniform. And players will move now because of this. And if a player is not one of the ones willing to change sides to balance the arena, that player is free to be stubborn about it. Just as free as he or she is to talk thier boyfriends or girlfriends into changing sides with them. :D


My main issue with the whole "change sides to even numbers" philosophy is that many of us have flown with many of the others on our "teams" for years and have developed a large network of people we know and trust to fly with. I don't want to see them or me deciding to go to another side to balance a temporary inequity in the arena only to be locked in when the imbalance shifts to another side, potentially even the one they went to.

While I understand the desire to prevent the hordes, I also struggle with the frustration of facing the opposition on some other part of the map where I am out-numbered and forced to fly something other than what I want to fly given the local situation.  So far it hasn't been a major problem, but I have muttered under my breath a few times.

Having been overseas with the Army for the last year, I am admittedly un-informed about what has been happening in the areana lately.  When I left, the Rook Joint Ops (RJOs) were a happening event when the rooks mustered a horde for a night of coordinated missions once a month.  I've read some things in this thread that make it seem like more of a weekly occurance. These are well coordinated, planned events with multiple squads (often 10 or more) acting under the command of one squad.  This command rotates through the squads and a great time is had by all.  The success of these RJOs reinforces the friendships and trust the members of these squads have for each other and make it even less desirable to switch sides - even for a short time. I have often wondered that I have seen nothing similar from the other sides in response to the RJOs.

The answer might be the disparity in number of established squads.  I have recently begun linking AH squads on my netaces site.  As I have gone through listing them, an interesting trend has begun to show.  After going through the first 48 squads with websites, 22 are Rook, 17 are Knight, and only 9 are Bish.  While having a website isn't the only thing that indicates a squad is active, it is certainly an indicator and shows a disparity that could be corrected by limiting new squad formations to countries which are understrength.  This would not be a short term solution, but might, as time wears on, cause people interested in forming new squads to form them in the countries that need them.

Jeez, I've written a book so I'm gonna stop.  Just my $.25

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