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Offline Furball

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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2004, 05:31:30 PM »
yes eagl, you are spot on.  Gotta love the "im gonna ****ing kill you" look ;)

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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2004, 05:46:51 PM »
Yea, the A-10 is another favorite.  All the appeal of a folding pack shovel (er... entrenching tool), built to do a dirty job under the worst possible circumstances, and survive to do it again the next day.  Ugly as heck but oh so functionally elegant.

It's nice that the Viggen looks both beautiful AND badass :)

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BTW, I'm convinced that part of the reason Boeing's JSF entry wasn't chosen is because that plane was far too ugly to fly.  That thing looked like an aborted whale fetus.  Usually an ugly piece of military hardware was driven to that condition by an extreme design requirement, but the Boeing JSF had no good reason for looking so ugly.  Regardless of how it would have performed, pilots and maintainers alike would have cringed every time they so much as glanced in it's general direction.

There was a whole generation of British planes that were the same...  The brits seem to tread on the fine line between elegant beauty and picasso-like horror every time they design an aircraft.  Thank goodness they're buying the eurofighter next, but even that looks a bit like a tonka-truck with wings.  It's too bad they couldn't combine the spitfire with the concorde to come up with another beautful world-beating fighter.  Maybe sometime in the next milennium.

The gripen and rafale...  Works of art.  I'm not convinced that they're not steps backwards in some important areas, but they're near the apex of elegant non-stealthy fighter aircraft design.
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2004, 05:52:41 PM »
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There was a whole generation of British planes that were the same...  


what generation? everyone has 1 or 2 smurfy planes, but our frontline fighters have been more or less beautiful ;)
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2004, 05:56:41 PM »
Draken, Viggen, Jas and Mirage 3 to 2000 are among the most beautiful jets ever made.

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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2004, 06:20:17 PM »
The lightning for example.  Who stacks engines on top of each other?  Sure it was fast as hell, but man was it smurfy.  There were another dozen earlier planes that looked like pregnant fish too...  I don't have my aircraft encyclopedia handy and I've deliberately wiped such unfortunate design mishaps from my memory, but I've been shocked far too often by brit aircraft designs to easily forget them all.  I think it's mostly out of their system now or all those designers have retired or perished, but it's been a while since a true all-British fighter design has flown.
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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2004, 06:25:42 PM »
I think the lightning is a nice looking plane?  Ever seen a real one? its massive, really imposing.  Guess one of those designs you love or hate, kinda like its namesake the P-38.





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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2004, 06:30:16 PM »
My brother had a cigarette lighter that looked like the BAC lightning...
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2004, 02:12:59 AM »
Yup, the Viggen and Draken sure as hell look more manly then the Gripen, problem is, they are also more clumpsy. I got the chans to talk to a Gripen pilot who had also flown a couple of years in the Viggen, asked him which one he prefered. I quite clearly stated that the Gripen was by far the better plane. It is MUCH smaller and thus much more maneuverable, it can carry the same load etc etc.

Viggem and Draken still win the bad a** competition though.

Will post some more screens from the new airshow soon, will post in another thread.

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« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2004, 03:02:12 AM »
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Ps. Punk Hijackers :p


who are you? and why are you posting in my thread? :D
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« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2004, 03:12:23 AM »
ROFLMAO

Go away!

Like I said before, I will post anotehr thread later on once Harppa has put up all the pictures I sent him on his webspace, I've got a reason to gloat! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! BWAHAHAA!!!
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« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2004, 03:17:02 AM »
are you the boy infront of the viggen there wilbus?

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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2004, 12:10:36 AM »
boy?

*cough* yes, that would be me...
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« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2004, 02:02:22 AM »
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boy?

*cough* yes, that would be me...

ok, girl then.. sorry :)

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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2004, 03:00:05 AM »
boy? c'mon! he looks at least 14! ;)

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« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2004, 06:37:38 AM »
Why you lil!!!
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