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Offline NUKE

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« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2004, 12:52:52 AM »
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I think his speech was good. You have to come to the conclusion that you know what you are getting with Bush, or think you know anyway. I'll give him four more years, albeit tentatively. I just feel, with my vote, that I am not getting much of an option. It seems with the strength and wealth of both parties, a third just cannot get started.


You know what? You are seeing that Bush has credibility and that Kerry is joker. You are smart enough to look beyond "party" and see a person as a real person. Kerry, as you KNOW, is a joker.

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« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2004, 01:08:11 AM »
In all seriousness, the "real" campaign begins in several weeks.  That is when whatever bounce (if any) Bush receives from the convention decays to its equilibrium level, and we see how successful Republicans were at framing the agenda for the campaign.

Things to consider:  Voters retrospectively evaluate incumbents and prospectively evaluate challengers.  If Republicans can continue to poll better than Kerry on national security and can keep the campaign focused on Bush's record in that area, I think things go smoothly for them.  The new proposals offered by Bush are really just red herrings; they likely won't influence voter evaluations of him.

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« Reply #62 on: September 03, 2004, 06:03:52 AM »
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The new proposals offered by Bush are really just red herrings; they likely won't influence voter evaluations of him.

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I have to disagree
Some will be swayed, everyone wants something and he listed something for just about everyone :)

on another note
As for the economy, all it would take is a 60 sec spot, maybe a couple, explaining in laymen terms how the changing world has caused outsourcing and the resulting lost tech & manufacturing jobs in America. He touched on it but not at the level joe six pack can grasp..

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« Reply #63 on: September 03, 2004, 08:18:03 AM »
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Nothing can be worse than Kerry's wife bringing the house into dead silence and confusion during the DNC


This just in... the President is a marginally better speechifier than the challenger's (immigrant) wife.... news at 11.

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« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2004, 08:23:56 AM »
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As opposed to the sheep that require a Republican to tell them what to do.

This argument is weak and nothing more than name-calling.


Just wait til the democrats get ahold of the govenment, start expanding it, turn the country socialist..then you'd wish that you could have the CHOICE to listen to the republicans and not ENFORCED to listen to the dumbocrats. Look at the kinda stuff they wan't. If they get power we will be the next USSR.

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« Reply #65 on: September 03, 2004, 09:05:12 AM »
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If they get power we will be the next USSR.


The disturbing thing is that I think you actually believe this.

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« Reply #66 on: September 03, 2004, 09:06:24 AM »
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Just wait til the democrats get ahold of the govenment, start expanding it, turn the country socialist..then you'd wish that you could have the CHOICE to listen to the republicans and not ENFORCED to listen to the dumbocrats. Look at the kinda stuff they wan't. If they get power we will be the next USSR.


Why do people assume that if you hate Bush you love Kerry?  I may be mistaken and Sandman will correct me, he's more a libertarian than anything, so how does socialism fit in there?

I'm not happy with either party and will reflect that with my vote in November,  I'm not going to "protest" vote Bush, because I hate him almost less than I hate Kerry.  I'm in Oklahoma so I hope there is a third candidate on the ballot, if not the president vote will be blank and the rest will be filled out.  Neither of those will represent me and my viewpoints and I don't feel either one deserve my vote.  I waited 20 years to vote in a Presidential election and this is all I get?  A slow speaking Texan and a monotone monkey from Boston?  And by god if Nader made it on the ballot and I didn't know in Oklahoma and he is the 3rd party, he's not getting my vote either.

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« Reply #67 on: September 03, 2004, 09:42:37 AM »
Looking Presidential. Saluting an ex-serviceman in the front row, vs. a weak wrested salute to no-body in particular.




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« Reply #68 on: September 03, 2004, 09:48:24 AM »
Kerry was saluting his image as a war hero...  A sort of selfish "Arent I great?" salute...

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« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2004, 10:29:14 AM »
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I waited 20 years to vote in a Presidential election and this is all I get? A slow speaking Texan and a monotone monkey from Boston? And by god if Nader made it on the ballot and I didn't know in Oklahoma and he is the 3rd party, he's not getting my vote either.


LOL Munkii.

It's about like prime time network television.

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« Reply #70 on: September 03, 2004, 12:31:47 PM »
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Kerry was saluting his image as a war hero...  A sort of selfish "Arent I great?" salute...


For someone who's forcing his military career on us...He doen't even render a proper Hand Salute:rofl :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #71 on: September 03, 2004, 01:04:00 PM »
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For someone who's forcing his military career on us...He doen't even render a proper Hand Salute:rofl :rofl :rofl


Is Bush's proper with his elbow slouching?

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« Reply #72 on: September 03, 2004, 01:04:49 PM »
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Is Bush's proper with his elbow slouching?


He's leaning down to salute someone seated lower than the platform:rolleyes:

Besides for someone you guys say never showed up for his military duty...It's still  better than the "War Hero" did.